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  1. Naomi25

    Slaying the two witnesses

    Lol! Labels are crazy! I suppose they are helpful when trying to explain to others what we believe…but so often I find that that just don’t…quite…fit. Nearly…but not quite.
  2. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    It tickles me just a little bit that we’re supposed to take you at your word here. Most other people on this board take the time out of their lives to carefully present the evidence for their arguments or views. They do this for two reasons; because they want to show to others that they are not...
  3. Naomi25

    Poll: Tattoo art - Christian perspectives: Fight it? Ignore it? appreciate/embrace it?

    Sigh. Well, its a long story. She’s grown up…sort of, making her own choices…many of them stupid. As they do. She’s barrelled ahead with her piercings; two nose ones since she left home. Not that we really care, to be honest. Bigger issues at hand. She seems pleased with them, and i expect...
  4. Naomi25

    Slaying the two witnesses

    Abstract and logic can be fine in context. Asking radical ideas is even fine. But the above claims seemed to be little more than opinion and a clumsy attempt to discredit Christianity. If Istreanu doesn’t want to be a Christian, that’s fine, it’s their choice. But this board, in particular this...
  5. Naomi25

    Calvinism: T = Total Depravity

    Personally, I love Ephesians and Romans. So good! John is fabulous too, so much weight.
  6. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Well, when we read texts that talk about ‘great deception’ or ‘he comes with lying power and great deception’…or even ‘he will lead astray even the elect…if possible’….we must suppose that he’s not going to be wearing a badge that reads “Satan sent me”. I mean…all we have to do is look at the...
  7. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I’m sorry, but I don’t agree with your interpretations here. As I’ve plotted out in other posts, I believe the bible is clear on a couple of things: 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 [20] But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. [21] For as by a man...
  8. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    The Olivet Discourse is hard, isn’t it? I’ve wavered over it for years. And, to be honest, I can’t say I’m 100% decided. I don’t know if we can allow that Matthew and Luke recorded different time periods. Wouldn’t that mean that the “discourse” they are recording is not the same? And yet, apart...
  9. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Daniel is classically described by most scholars as apocalyptic. It’s definitely not ‘interpreted by humanly devised symbols’, and has a clear connection to Revelation. Even Christ himself references the book, which he does no other OT by name. I think so many people get twitchy when the genre...
  10. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    You know, when I went to school, that started teaching this sort of thing early. You know, the whole idea of ‘know what you are reading’ idea. That way if you pick up a news article, you know you’re not reading fiction (debatable today, I know), or if you pick up a history book, you know you’re...
  11. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    John also says some fairly interesting things, when it comes to life and death, and what believing in Christ means: John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John...
  12. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    They probably believe that because of where we find 7:13-14. It’s sort of bang after Daniel 7:9-11 [9] “As I looked, thrones were placed, and the Ancient of Days took his seat; his clothing was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool; his throne was...
  13. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    My bible study group has been going through Hosea. It both makes my heart extremely heavy and sort of joyous at the same time. It’s hard not to read the judgment God is calling down on the people for their idolatry and wickedness with a sense of dread, even knowing its fully justified and right...
  14. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    Mmmm. Now some of these things…I’m still pondering over. I think, with the seal thing, you are correct. It’s most likely the seal spoken of in Revelation is the same ‘sealed with the Holy Spirit’ referred to in other NT passages. The references and therefore correlations are there. We ARE sealed...
  15. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    How funny! I’ve just started on that book! I’ll have to see if the NT connections pop for me or if I’m going to have to work for them!
  16. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    I just wish it was that easy most of the time. Those passages pretty much screamed their similarities…so many of them make you work…and work…for it. And then still hide!
  17. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    @Truth7t7 ; I think it’s interesting to look at some of these passages side by side. Daniel 7:8 [8] I considered the horns, and behold, there came up among them another horn, a little one, before which three of the first horns were plucked up by the roots. And behold, in this horn were eyes...
  18. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    70AD matches the Olivet Discourse, however. We can say, perhaps, that it does not Daniel, and I agree, that there is most likely another, future event to look forward to. But…if Revelation was written after 70AD…wouldn’t that exclude it anyway? I know Preterists argue for a pre-70 write date...
  19. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I don’t like labels, as too many systems have flaws, in my view. But if I were to peg myself as anything, I’d go with Idealist. Which, as you may know, borrows from all the other systems. For a reason. Perhaps it was not obvious in my post, but I was not suggesting that Antiochus was THE...
  20. Naomi25

    Christ's Birth - Sept. 11, 3 BC

    I’ve heard this date/theory as well. I listen to Michael Heiser a lot, he does a lot of work on the OT, languages, the Divine Council, etc. Fairly eye opening and interesting. It’s interesting, isn’t it, how absolutely meaningless it is for us…Westerners, to have Christ’s birthday potentially...