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I suppose everyone can believe as they like, but as I told you, I haven’t in any way, shape or form reached a firm decision on this…thus can hardly be said to have a solid belief on it, erroneous or otherwise! I think its not a bad point, the use of the personal pronouns…I’ll have to read it...

Forgive me, I seem to be misunderstanding your point. I thought you WERE suggesting that the ‘crucifixion with Christ’ ought to count as a death. Here it almost seems you are not…? So…are you therefore saying that if we cannot count it as a death, neither can we count new life in him as a...

I gave a view that I thought was backed by strong biblical argument. I also said I wasn’t absolutely sure it was the correct view, nor that I needed it to be the correct view. And frankly, I think anyone who wants to stand up and declare they KNOW anything for 100% certain about Revelation is...

I agree, much of it is, but where many would assume it must be, I don’t feel we necessarily need to push the symbology. Take Rev 9, for example, the creatures released from the bottomless pit to torment people. Many people try to fit the descriptions of those creatures onto ‘real world’...

Hmm. Okay, something I will have to chew on. The problem I have with the OT is that so often individual verses stacked in among other, seemingly random bits of text, hold importance. Except, how are you supposed to know which? When you’re reading through many of the OT books, especially...

Like I said, I’m not opposed to the view that they will be two literal people. In point of fact, I’m still at the place where I’m muddling over in my mind how much of Revelation to take figuratively and how much to take literally. I mean, I take it all as very real and true, of course, but I...

This is the most usual interpretation, and I think, if the Witnesses turn out to be two actual people, this is most likely what I’d go with as well. Because of the reasons you stated. But also I’d be tempted to say it could be Moses and Elijah because of the fact that both Moses and Elijah...

We can see WHAT Satan was being bound against, specifically, by looking at what he DOES, the moment he is released. Revelation 20:7-9 [7] And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison [8] and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of...

Me too! It’s sort of a shame that much of the Jewish traditional understandings of scripture have been done away with in the Western-ising of the Bible. I don’t think it changes the central gospel tenets of what Christ taught…but we loose so much, I think, when we don’t or can’t look at it with...

If the ‘outcome’ is the same, for both ‘born again’ and ‘first resurrection’, then what makes you either sure, or able to dismiss the first as being the second? If you admit that ‘new life in Christ’ will see one safe from the second death, then biblically, according to Rev 20, you have just...

Hi! Well, I suppose one could argue that the ‘first death’ is being ‘crucified with Christ’. But, from my perspective (which means it could be wrong, I acknowledge), Revelation 20 outright tells us that the ‘second death’ is the lake of fire…the eternal ‘death’ of judgment. We know that all men...

Okay. Another question…(forgive me, I’m just attempting to fit all this into what I’ve heard or read before…they are genuine questions). Many say that when we read these ‘day of the Lord’ judgment pronouncements in the OT, they are fulfilled when God brings other nations down upon them. That the...

Well…I think its a sibling order thing. She’s the oldest, and was always, I think, expected to behave, etc. Me? I’m the youngest, so they’d relaxed a fair bit by me!! I think my sister is still in that frame of mind where she’s worried they’ll be disappointed or scold her. I mean…she’s sneaking...

I don’t know that I’ve seen a version that’s used the word “unfolding”. It’s not unlike, i suppose, when Paul drops the word ‘mystery’. Through Paul..John, we’re being told/shown new understandings about God and his plan. Yes…a great privilege indeed.

Well, the word ‘apokalypis’ means revelation, or unveiling. So, the book is, literally, ‘the apocalypse of Christ’.

Nope.

Sorry! Old family expression!

Lol! Well, call me piggy in the middle, maybe. I find that leaning too hard towards a literal interpretation is sometimes seeing things that we’re called not too. But yes…I do think that there are times when it’s hard, and people just wave it away as figurative when, really, there’s no real...