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Marcus and Trekson, you can continue to hold to your beliefs and I will continue to stick to what I see as scriptural truth. As we will soon experience the end time events unfolding, the truth of it will become apparent to all. Those who have believed wrong teachings will be embarrassed, but...

Marcus. I quote scripture to support my contentions. I believe what the Word says is true, words mean what they say and no person with beliefs unsupported by scripture will change me. The people I find to be fanatical are those locked into false teachings, esp rapture believers, thinking that...

I have studied the subject of what happens when we die and whether we go to heaven then, or later. I cannot find any verse that specifically says any human does ever go to live in God's dwelling place, only ones that say we don't. John 3:13 is quite clear about it. 1 Cor. 3:11-15 is a...

Trekson, have some sense please! I do NOT deny that God lives in heaven. What I do is point out the truth; we are earth creatures, this is our home. God made angels to serve Him in heaven. Isn't our reward to go to heaven? Are there not some verses that say something to that effect? Here they...

Trekson, your post is quite confusing and hard to ascertain what you are trying to prove. Just two points: asserting that the 144,000 are 'never' said to be witnesses is quite wrong. Isaiah 66:19 I shall put a sign on them [God's seal, as per Rev 14:1] and some of those survivors, [survivors of...

So Chuckt, you rest your case on the premise that Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven, that is: Gods dwelling place? Very poor exegesis. Re Enoch, Genesis 5:24 does NOT say he was taken to heaven, just that he 'was taken away'. Re Elijah, 2 Kings 2:11 actually says [in the Hebrew] 'he...

Yes Trekson, I see you do believe in one true group of believers: Quote from #1 - Let me sum up by saying this. Neither Israel nor Gentiles are of the family of God (as Paul repeatedly says). Only those from either group that have exercised their faith in God and put their trust in Him and in...

The truth about our future: Jeremiah 33:1-3 The Word of the Lord came to Jeremiah while he was imprisoned. The Lord says: If you call to Me, I will answer and tell you of great and mysterious things that you are unaware of. Jeremiah prophesied to the House of Judah, many years after the House of...

Correct, Trekson; nowhere does scripture teach of a 7 year Tribulation period. But Rev. 12:6 does tell us there will be a 1260 day [3.5 year] time of hardship and war; Rev 12:17. Preceded by another 1260 day, 42 month period of the two witnesses. Rev. 11:2-3 These times, therefore, are the 70th...

Trekson feels sorry for those who think they will never leave the earth. As God never says anyone will go anywhere else, who you should feel sorry for is yourself and those who hold to false teachings, instead of reading and understanding the great promises of God to His righteous people...

Psalm 46:1-11 God is our refuge and strength, a timely help in trouble, so we are not afraid, though the earth quakes and the mountains be moved, when the seas roar and foam in tumult, when the Lord arises to strike all the world with terror. Isaiah 2:21, Isaiah 28:21, Psalm 7:6, There is a...

Any idea or theory that humans ever go to live in heaven, God's dwelling place, is false, for two main reasons: 1/ No one has gone up to heaven except the one who came down from heaven.... John 3:13 2/ None of the scriptures used by those who believe in a rapture, actually say anyone goes to...

Why not think that a CME sunstrike will be the way God will punish the nations? Isaiah 30:26 cannot be explained any other way and a CME will literally fulfil ALL the prophesies about that surprising and devastating one Day event: A Worldwide Punishment, the Next Prophesied Event Isaiah 24:1...

Mike, your quote from Genesis proves that God will not so completely destroy all living things, this next time. We are now, once again 'as in the days of Noah' and a judgement/punishment is extensively prophesied as 'fire from the heavens'. Isaiah 66:15-16, Zeph. 3:8, Hebrews 10:27, Rev 6:12-17...

What those who hold to the 'rapture' theory fail to see, is what the great promises of God to his people actually are. They are for protection during, not removal from, His terrible Day of wrath, His fiery judgement of the nations, so extensively prophesied in the Bible. Hab. 3:12, Isaiah...

There will be no removal of anyone to heaven, John 3:13 No one has gone to heaven except He who came down from heaven.... We must be tested and we have work to do here, there will be no reward before trial and judgement. Acts 14:22 We are warned, that to enter the Kingdom of God, we must...

Regarding a 'rapture', what we should all be looking forward to is the fulfilment of God's promises to His people, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in, of going to live in all of the holy Land, as so well prophesied in Isaiah 60, 61 & 62. There, we will be 'wedded to Him' and live in...

My advice for you is to believe what scripture actually says, not any so called teachers, including me! This is what the Word says: No one has ever gone to heaven, except the One who came from heaven.... John 3:13 Where, exactly does your expectation of going to heaven come from? No scripture...

I am very familiar with the holy scriptures and I do not see anywhere that humans will go to live in heaven. Your assumption from Rev 7 and John 14:2-3, is wrong, they DO NOT say that the people or those 'mansions' are in heaven. To think they are, is a false doctrine. The 5th Seal, does NOT say...

And you don't answer questions. Give us another explanation for Isaiah 30:26. Also Malachi 4:1. In their context, please. Where are the scriptures that specifically say we go to heaven? Dead or alive. Rev 7:9 is not in heaven, proved by Rev 14:1, they are in Jerusalem.