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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Both the Preterists and Premillennialists believe that the Olivet Discourse is talking about national Israel, Jews or physical city of Jersualem in the Middle East, whether in 70AD or post-1948, but that was NOT what Christ prophesied about. He was talking about His New Testament Congregation...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    You still have the wrong Jew and the wrong Israel in your faulty premillennial doctrine. Consider wisely: Deu 30:3-6 (3) That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath...
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    He who Scattered Israel, will Gather them

    Correct and it has been since the Cross! But it would NOT be possible if Satan had not be bound at the Cross. Not in the future. Beulah is symbolic of the church (congregation of Israel with all Elect from the Old Testament and New Testament) being married to Christ in a spiritual promised...
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    He who Scattered Israel, will Gather them

    You misunderstood who Israel is. First, all "Nations" will "NEVER" turn to Christ. At least not in the way you imagine. But in God's economy, the gospel has been preached to all the nations, and the elect of those nations have turned to Him, being gather together unto him. Salvation is on an...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    No, you don't even understand the context itself to begin with anyway. Nope. Mat 24:30-31 (30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    No. Covenantee is right. The Elect is a remnant of Israel and the Church. The Elect from both the Old and New Testament are the Holy People. Together they are all ONE HOLY NATION and HOLY PEOPLE.
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Your haven’t post a single verse in many of your latest posts. Nothing but purely personal opinions and speculations on your part about the elect and the generation. You are very wrong on both counts.
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Nothing to do with how long you have been studied. Even the the Pharisees and their scribes has studied all of their life but lack understanding because they’re blind. Only the spirit of God gives His people to discern what He actually talks about. You may think Christ talked about literal...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    LOL. who told you this? Where do you find that in Scrioture. Says the foolish man who lacks spiritual discernment. 1st Corth 2:12-13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    No No it’s you that lacks spiritual discernment.
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Really? Literal nature? Okay then you also must believe that your two men will spew fire from their mouths upon the enemies in literal city? Rev 11:5 (5) And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    That is confusion, inconsistency, and lack of sound hermeneutics. You can't cherry-pick how you want a verse to be literal and then the next spiritually. This is not how it works and that explains why your doctrine is false.
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    That is what your carnal mind wants you to think but that is not what God talked about according to the rest of Scripture. You missed the point that Christ was trying to tell you. He did NOT tell us to look for a literal city in the Middle East where Christ was crucified since we already knew...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Rev 11:7-10 (7) And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. (8) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Do you understand why the angel told John to measure the city, the altar, and worship? What does the reed like unto a rod signifies? Have you thought that the reed of measurement signifies the rod of correction? the Word, that the people might see their error, repent and be corrected...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Do you even know what is the beast the Lord talks about? And the Gentiles (nations) of Revelation 11 and 20? They are not physical nations. Rather they are people who are NOT SAVED. For example, you (and me) were Gentiles until we are born again that we have become spiritual Jews in Christ...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    No. Those who have not yet been sealed by God within the congregation are NOT part of 144,000. Only the chosen Elect are to be sealed symbolically 144,000. For example: Rev 14:1 (1) And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Rev 11:1-2 (1) And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. (2) But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Rev 17:18 (18) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. This woman is the congregation of God which is the great city that rules over ALL kings of the earth. However, not all kings of the Earth within the congregation are serving God...