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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Three times? No, there is one more below: Rev 11:1-2 (1) And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. (2) But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Both Revelation 17 and 18 are speaking about the same whore. You may read into Revelation 18 thinking the kings (and merchants) of the Earth are the secular men of the world. That is not true. They are people of the congregation were selling God's merchandise (the riches of the Gospel) that...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    The Great City or the Holy City in the symbolic book of Revelation is the New Testament congregation, the Church, all over the world, where the Elect (Two Witnesses) with the power to prophesy the gospel to the world. They are the camps of the Saints all over the world. It is NOT a literal city...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Like we have discussed on other forum. Babylon the Great is not the world, nor the "religious sector" of the world. Rather she is the New Testament congregation on Earth that God judges. Not Muslims, Not Hindus, etc. Who does the interpretations belong to? God. So, how does He give us...
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    Understanding the 'Little Horn' power of Prophecy in Daniel.

    There's nothing to think about. You do not make any sense. Your interpretation is purely speculation based on history you tried to force it to interpret Bible prophecies. The prophecy concerning the little horn, beast, etc. has NOTHING to do with literal empire or even individual literal man.
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    Understanding the 'Little Horn' power of Prophecy in Daniel.

    Papacy? I am well aware that many, especially preterists, have "interpreted" the Papal system to be the beast, however, I do not believe that will stand the test of Scripture. Beasts are often symbolic of devouring kingdoms in scripture. The heads are symbolic of authorities. The horns are...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Thank you. I found that many people misunderstand the prophecy of the "taking away of the daily sacrifice" because they usually look at this (daily sacrifice) as an Old Testament ritual, and yet they place it within the New Testament dispensation. It's a contradiction to me to have God...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    I did not say this. Regardless, please show me the Scripture where you found "daily sacrifice" in then we will talk.
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    The Two Witnesses are the Saints who have received the power to preach the gospel to the world for a symbolic period of 1,260 days which covered the New Testament period. Their testimony will not end until they are killed (by silencing their testimony with false doctrine) by those deceived by...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Based on Scripture where do you read that in? That is speculation and assumption. Notice your keyword: "I think."
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    Matthew 24

    That is incorrect! Again, I will say this, the word translated generation here is the Greek word [genea], which first denotes posterity (family), and then a specific or particular family timeline. As one might say "the previous generation," or "the next generation." I would be talking about a...
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    Matthew 24

    The discourse was NOT talking about the first century. No. There is no Biblical evidence that it's talking about anything but one time period when the Lord would return in judgment. These "signs" were "these things" that would be the harbinger of the Lord's Second Advent. When we carefully...
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    The Black Horse Is Coming Soon

    You are making too many speculations. The four horsemen have nothing to do with world peace, physical wars, physical famines, physical sickness/death, etc. Nothing to do with newspaper eschatology like you are watching for physical fulfillment in Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Europe, etc...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Yes He did. Matthew 24:1-2, Luke 21:5-6, Mark 13:1-2. The FALL of Old Testament congregation with people (stones) falling. The rest of the Olivet discourse applies to New Testament congregation in the future when SHE shall fall into apostasy AFTER the ministry of Two Witnesses is finished...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Absurd. The apostasy of 2nd Thess 2 has nothing to do with The Old Testament Israel in the first century. You were trying to apply the verses to the wrong period. And... you got the wrong army and the wrong Israel to begin with anyway. Of course. Wrong. There were many Jews since PENTECOST...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    First, this has NOTHING to do with Jews, Israel or physical temple in 70AD. So Pretrists' answer to your questions are incorrect. The Olivet Discourse was prophesied against the CHURCH before the Second Coming. Here's why: 1.) Why does Luke talk about armies while Mark and Matthew talk...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    No. When Christ speaks to his disciples, he speaks to the Church universally. That does not mean the prophecies of Olievt Discourse was fulfilled within the first century like Preterists insisted.
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    Matthew 24

    Hey that's my line. :) No, Christ is saying that those kinsmen are PART of the ONGOING generation of evil just as we, Elect, are part of the ONGOING generation since the dawn of time! As RB quoted this generation is talking about EVIL generation which WILL PASS... after all thing are...
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    Matthew 24

    False. The evil generation were those who were part of a spiritual family that waged war against the CONGREGATION of Israel, starting with Seth (he was not even a Jew). The evil generation make up of all professed believers in the old and new testament. Not strictly Jews or Israel only. You...
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    Matthew 24

    No, we speak the truth. The word translated "generation" here is the Greek word [genea], which first denotes posterity (family), and then a specific or particular family timeline. As one might say "the previous generation," or "the next generation." I would be talking about a family era. It is...