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Yeah. Let's pretend those 7 trumpets are not in the 7th seal. That's like saying that the 1st seal is a white horse. Then ignoring that a rider sits on horse with a crown given to him and he goes forth conquering and to conquer. You need to apply some commonsense brother. Rev 6 And I saw...

Jesus swings the sickle but the angels do the gathering. The 144,000 first fruits CANNOT occur until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. THAT's FACT. What happened in 363 AD has nothing to do with what is getting ready to happen. I don't believe that the Jews would destroy their own...

None of what you are saying is correct. When the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord...........The millennial kingdom is set up. Wrath is over. Rev 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become...

Yes I got the memo. But I also understand that blindness will not be removed from part of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part...

I already showed you that the fathers of Israel were supposed to be the first fruits of the first harvest but they served Baalpeor. The Gentiles will be the first harvest. That is written in scripture. This has nothing whatsoever to do with barley harvest. The 144,000 are first fruits of the...

The gathering from heaven and earth occurs before the day of the Lord. This is the gathering at the last trump (1 Cor 15} The rapture of the Church is not the gathering that occurs just before the day of the Lord. The rapture of the Church (1 Thes 4) occurs before the tribulation. You might...

Thank you. And to you.

No it would make them first fruits of the second harvest. Not so. The fathers of were supposed to be the first fruits of the first harvest, but they served Baalpeor so they would not be the first fruits of the 1st harvest. The Gentiles would be the 1 harvest. This is why there are 144,000 first...

Of course. The feasts of God prove that, let alone the plethora of scriptures that prove the same. If you really understood what you were reading you would know that the great tribulation is over before the opening of the 6th seal. You would also know that there is a harvest at the 6th seal...

I think not. None of this has taken place. The 70th week of Daniel has not begun. The seals are not opened and will not be opened until the Church is in the ark. I do not turn a blind eye to those raised right after Jesus was raised from the dead. Christ was the first fruits of them that...

OK. You can pretend that the earth is not reaped by the Messiah before the angel swings the sickle for the unrighteous if you want. You have to ignore what is written to prove your doctrine. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man...

No, I'm saying that the second coming is at the 6th seal before the 7th seal wrath of God is opnened.

And yet in Rev 14 we see the righteous are gathered first. They are completely reaped before the second angel cast the unrighteous into the wrath of God. The Lord reaps the righteous before the angel swings the sickle for the unrighteous. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and...

Sure. No worries. Nope. Christ comes for His Church. He then comes for the second harvest at the sixth seal which is the gathering from heaven and earth. You ought to be able to tell from the info below that Christ returns at the sixth seal. It is the second coming when all eyes see the...

2Thess 2 2 Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a message, or a letter as if from us to the effect that the day of the...

Oh, the old the Word of God can't be trusted so we have to make things symbolic so our doctrine will work. God's Word doesn't seem good enough. We need discernment to figure out why what is written is incorrect. Goodness gracious with pickles on top. You think the great begins at the 6th seal...

Do you not yet understand that the great tribulation is over before the 6th seal is opened. The sixth seal is the second coming which is BEFORE the wrath of God. The great tribulation is over before the 6th seal is opened. NO SEALS ARE OPENED. 70 AD means nothing regarding end times other...

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.” So if the wheat and tares are gathered at the same time as you now claim...

Nice statement. Do you have any scripture to support this?