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  1. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
  2. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Wow. Who fed you that? I appreciate their expertise in getting you to swallow that. Hey. you got one. Yeah..........BUT...............it's not the Church that is mostly Gentiles of today. That Church will be in heaven already raptured before the 144,00 become Christians.
  3. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Already quoted what you asked many times. And I will be happy to quote it again after you can find the time to do what you said you would do. You know...........the dissection of the scripture I've already posted. Quit moaning and do what you said. Are you scared? If it's so simple just do it.
  4. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    As if you didn't know. Rev 7 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of...
  5. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Tell you what. I will be happy to give you the scriptures but first you already asked me for a pretrib scripture. You claimed that you were going to dissect it. I produced the scripture that you requested and you did not dissect it. You do what you claimed you could do and I will repost the...
  6. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How many times do I need to post the scriptures of Rev 4, 5 and 6.
  7. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes it is. This would not be correct. The Day of the Lord is the wrath of God. It is the one-year day of vengeance that begins when the 7th seal is opened. Jesus returns for His Church before the seals are opened. See Revelation 4 and 5. This occurs at the 6th seal which is the second coming...
  8. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The rapture happens before the seals are opened. The 5th seal is the great tribulation. You seem to have trouble proving anything. Always wrong. Always. This is what happens when you incorrectly conclude that he 144,000 is the Church. The 144,000 is exactly what the Word says they are.
  9. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Study to show yourself approved and quit listening to those teachers on Sunday and Wednesday night. Isaiah 34 4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as...
  10. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Study to show yourself approved and quit listening to those teachers on Sunday and Wednesday night. Isaiah 34 4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as...
  11. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Right. I prove you wrong over and over and over and then you deny, deny, deny.
  12. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    These are your words and not the Words of the scripture.
  13. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. When many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall be increased. Nope. Sorry. Daniel 12:1 is the time of the great tribulation. Daniel 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble...
  14. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The dead in Christ rise first before the great tribulation. The second harvest is at the 6th seal per Daniel 12. Then there is a rising from the dead at the end of wrath...........but they are not raptured to heaven. According to scripture......every man in his order..........Christ the first...
  15. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Daniel 12:1-2 happens at the 6th seal. The 7th seal is the one-year day of the Lord.
  16. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The only was we can escape all these things that come to pass and stand before the Son of man is to be raptured before the great tribulation. No. There are those that will escape ALL THESE THINGS that will come to pass. You are using a bad translation. I would recommend the King James Version.
  17. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    As I said, per Daniel 12 after the great tribulation many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall be raised. After that...........John 5 what you call a general resurrection.......all that are in the ground at that time shall rise. This is after the wrath of God.
  18. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Thank you. I have not seen this before. The bridegroom comes for the bride at the pretribulation rapture. This is why there are 24 elders with crowns in Rev 4 and kings and priests before the throne in Revelation 5. This will likely happen at the Feast of New Wine or Tu B'av. The second...
  19. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Here, dissect away. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. The only thing I'm scared of is not getting anything productive done because I'm wasting my time proving...
  20. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Honestly I have no clue what you consider a "GENERAL RESURRECTION". Is this when generals are resurrected? There is a resurrection at the 6th seal which is immediately after the tribulation. Many that sleep in the ground will be raised. Then there is a resurrection at the end of God wrath...