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  1. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No. You attempted to change the Hebrew because the scripture proves what you are saying is wrong. Here's a reminder......... Let me get this straight. Pretty much all the translators translated the verse as......Many of Those.........and .........Many of Them. You want come along and change the...
  2. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Let me get this straight. Pretty much all the translators translated the verse as......Many of Those.........and .........Many of Them. You want come along and change the translation to abundance because properly translated it proves what you are saying is incorrect and does not agree with...
  3. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Run Davy, Run you have no answers as usual so i reposted for you. Can you explain why many of the them which sleep in the ground shall be changed? Why aren't all of them that sleep in the ground changed? Daniel 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the...
  4. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Those that think that they have replace Israel do not take scripture literally.
  5. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why do those 24 elders have their crowns. Judgement day has not happened.
  6. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Isaiah 34 8 For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. The day of the Lord is the day of wrath. Wrath begins at the 7th seal is opened at the trumpets start.
  7. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    According to the Word of God, the Day of the Lord is one year.
  8. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So are you saying that you have your crown. Or do you have to wait until Jesus returns?
  9. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You should read the next sentence. Revelation 8 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. The seventh seal is the seven trumpets of wrath.
  10. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I'm ready what the word says. It says TIMES AND SEASONS. The word malarky comes to mind. You guys don't know what literal mans. You have one return of the Lord at the end of wrath. Won't work.
  11. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not sure he will answer these............but I will. 1 Jesus 2 The alive who remained. 3. Before Jesus returns to earth. 1. Jesus 2. It absolutely has to be before the 5th seal which we can prove by Revelation 14. I suspect this will occur just before the seals are opened on the Feast of New...
  12. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I believe that Paul is telling us that Jesus comes for the Church in 1 Thes 4. Then he uses the terms times and seasons instead of time and season because there is more than one time and one season. Paul has shifted to talking about the Day of the Lord in 1 Thes 5. That's why he uses times and...
  13. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Oh, I don't know. How many times do I have to tell you I don't believe in a 7 year tribulation, I believe in a 70th week of Daniel. I know. I know. Agreed. Ok It's a very good post. However, I don't see your specifics. My specifics are that the seals are in order. The first four seals are...
  14. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So are you saying that Jesus comes at the 6th seal or Jesus comes at the 7th trumpet or that Jesus comes at both the 6th seal and the 7th trumpet?
  15. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Can you explain why many of the them which sleep in the ground shall be changed? Why aren't all of them that sleep in the ground changed? Daniel 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such...
  16. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I've noticed that those that think they have replaced Israel constantly call believers liars and following the doctrine of Satan. So don't talk to me about language. Could you show me a rapture passage that teaches Jesus will return at the end of wrath and skip the second coming that occurs at...
  17. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Go ahead and post the scriptural support for that. Crickets.
  18. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    When do we get those crowns?
  19. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Well he keeps telling me to prove a 7 year tribulation. I don't believe in a 7 year tribulation. So when he does that I ask him to prove his flat earth theory. I keep thinking that he will get the message but I'm pretty sure his nickname is Christmas as he is slow as Christmas
  20. The Light

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You were unable to show your flat earth theory in Revelation. You would need to understand that the coming of Jesus for the harvest in Revelation 14 is the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24. Then you would need to know that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal as marked by the...