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Show the scripture in Revelation that shows anyone gets a crown before Jesus returns. What ever.

Jesus has come as evidenced by the 24 elders having crowns. The kings and priests in Rev 5 is the Church. It's pretty simple. The kings and priest out of every kindred and tongue and people an nation are the Church. John tells us so in Rev 1 Obviously, you won't be able grasp it, but any...

Mr Avoidance want to claim everyone avoids him. If you think that you get your crown when you die you are AS USUAL mistaken. You got nothing. You can't even show your imaginary rapture in Revelation.

Yes, yes, yes Do you believe that the dead in Christ get crowns when they die? Or does Jesus have to come first before the dead get crowns?

Ridiculous. The 24 elders are 24 elders. No one is saying they are the Church. They HAVE CROWNS. Jesus has come. The 24 elders are 24 elders. No one is saying they are the Church. They HAVE CROWNS. Jesus has come. The 24 elders are 24 elders. No one is saying they are the Church. They HAVE...

What you mean is you are so confused you can't even show your own rapture in Revelation. You are so confused that you can't show where the Church is mentioned in the 144,000 which God says are of the 12 tribes. You are not only confused but you continue to use the playbook of those that think...

You are kidding aren't you Douggg. It's easy for him. It's the same way you can post dozens of verses that prove him wrong, and his response is you are avoiding answering him. This tactic comes straight from their teachers in an attempt to keep their fallen doctrine from being exposed. You...

The 24 elders have crowns. Jesus has come. Simple enough. Why is it that you always ask questions that you cannot answer with your beliefs. Where is the Church mentioned regarding the 144,000. YOU CANNOT ANSWER because the Church is not mentioned. And you cannot prove it is the Church because...

Did I say there was a 7 year tribulation. Once it is realized that there are two raptures, you doctrine goes up in smoke. Two folds into one John 10 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and...

Except you changed the Word of God to support your doctrine.

I nearly fell over laughing. The Word goes to great lengths to tell us who the 144,000 are. But the Word is not good enough for your doctrine. You have to change the 144,000 of the 12 tribes to mean the Church. Then you can't explain what the 144,000 are doing in heaven in Revelation 14 if the...

No one is avoiding you. You were caught changing the Greek to make you doctrine work. We don't have to change scripture to make our doctrine work.

Nah. How many scriptures do I have to post? Two folds into one John 10 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Shows Israel was chosen as 1st harvest but they served other...

He has no verses because all the verses WPM posts on this are out of context. The tribulation of those days is the great tribulation. I have posted verses for him many times that show this. But his replay is always no verses have been posted.

Two folds into one John 10 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Shows Israel was chosen as 1st harvest but they served other Baalpeor. The Gentiles become the 1st harvest as...

Amils are pretty clueless. Five wise, five foolish.

When it is realized there are two raptures this goes up in smoke.

I have posted numerous scriptures. But alas there are 5 wise and 5 foolish. The wise are watching and ready as our Lord instructed. The foolish cackle in blindness.

Not a snowballs chance. The scripture clearly supports a pre trib rapture.

Nope. Not a problem at all when we realize there are two raptures. One for the Church Pretrib and one for the 12 tribes across the earth post trib...............which is pre wrath. And you do have the Church going through the wrath of God when we are clearly told that we are not appointed to...