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  1. Ac28

    Why were they CHOSEN then SCATTERED and then GATHERED; WHY?

    It's impossible that you are associated with the Israel of God in any way, today. You are not Abraham's seed. That stopped in 63AD, along with everything else associated with Israel. There is no Israel today, period. Essentially, everyone on the planet is a Gentile, today. The only books of the...
  2. Ac28

    Why were they CHOSEN then SCATTERED and then GATHERED; WHY?

    1- All prophecy involves Israel. 2- Israel hasn't existed since they were set aside, in God's eyes, for not accepting Christ,in Ac 28:28, about 63AD. 3- Therefore, no prophecy has been fulfilled in the last 1950 years, or thereabouts. 4- Everything Christendom thinks they know about Israel...
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    Infant vs Adult Baptism !

    This is a moot point since, starting in about 63AD, we have been in a 2000 year period of Pure Grace and all ordinances have been set aside, including all forms of water baptism - Eph 2:15, Col 2:20. The only thing that water baptism does today is get you wet. When we believe in Christ, the only...
  4. Ac28

    Why were they CHOSEN then SCATTERED and then GATHERED; WHY?

    Israel was scattered but was never gathered, at least not by God. They will be though, just as soon as this present, 2000 year, all-Gentile period is finished - only about 45 more years left. The formation of Israel in 1948 most certainly was not the result of the fulfillment of prophecy. That...
  5. Ac28

    And...God didn't say...

    I don't have a low opinion of you, but the lack of truth in your posts can be very annoying, especially when you insist that wrong is right. That's what happens when you go to church and listen to those know-nothing denominational preachers, whose only asset is that they have a silver tongue. I...
  6. Ac28

    And...God didn't say...

    What I've said is Biblical truth, but real truth is very much different from the tradition you believe. You have so much error-filled tradition packed into you, probably from denominational churches, it's almost impossible for you to discern the truth about anything. Those that will be of the...
  7. Ac28

    And...God didn't say...

    Nothing you said is Biblical, and thatmakes everything you said wrong. Why didn't you mention the huge error you made concerning your "gathering unto his people" fiasco. Christ didn't say anyone went to paradise when they die. Surely you don't buy into that. The comma is in the wrong place in...
  8. Ac28

    Baptism ?

    Where did He say that?
  9. Ac28

    Baptism ?

    I'm from Missouri. Show me. You've been listening to Denominational preachers, I see. None of them rightly divide and, therefore, at least half of what they think they know is incorrect. Paul is the only apostle and teacher that we Gentiles have. In Acts 20-27, he said, "For I have not shunned...
  10. Ac28

    Baptism ?

    I see no references that associate "born again" with salvation. Jesus Christ taught that being born again was the ticket for Jews to enter their promised Kingdom. However, Christ's returning and setting up the Kingdom was dependent, time-wise, on Israel, as a nation, accepting Christ as the...
  11. Ac28

    And...God didn't say...

    Destruction means to destroy or, ruin, and one destroyed would be eliminated, ceased to exist, perished. Eternal destruction would be that one would cease to exist forever. I see no evidence of consciousness in the grave. I do see a lot of figures of speech used I don't think "sleep" is ever...
  12. Ac28

    Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

    Saying that any or all of it has been fulfilled is a form of preterism, one of the most heretical, erroneous fields of teaching on the planet. However, I will eat crow once you post an itemized list of those that have been fulfilled with substantial proof that they have been fulfilled. Don't...
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    Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

    The quotes from Corinthians and Romans directly apply only to the all-Israel church in Acts, made up of saved Jews and saved Gentiles who are part of Israel, who have a Calling of the New Jerusalem (Gal 4:26), which is NOT Heaven. It comes down out of Heaven and docks on the New Earth. The...
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    Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

    The only Gentiles in history with a hope of the rapture were those that were grafted into Israel's church during Acts. Your "rapture" is called "The Appearing" and it is only found in Paul's books written after Acts. Or, at least, that's what the Bible says. Where does it say that any Gentile...
  15. Ac28

    And...God didn't say...

    Every scripture quoted involves Israel and all Israel will be saved. Where is scripture concerning pagan ungodly Gentiles and the grave? Most all the language in your quotes is figurative. The term, "gathering unto his people" is repeated over and over and is obviously figurative. There is not...
  16. Ac28

    Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

    Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. That verse proves that, when it was written, everything was prophetic and future. If tradition is right in this case, and if this book...
  17. Ac28

    And...God didn't say...

    I agree almost totally with brakelite The unbelievers will not be part of any resurrection to life and will be eternally punished by perishing and ceasing to exist in the grave, never to be heard from again. Only believers sleep in the grave.
  18. Ac28

    Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

    So, what you're saying is that you don't believe your Bible. All 3 are about the all-Israel church in Acts that hasn't existed in 1955 years. The church for today can only found in Paul's 7 books written after Acts. This church has no Israel, no gifts, and no rapture.
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    Baptism ?

    Do you obey God and rightly divide, Correctly Cut, His Word of truth, 2Tim 2:15? If you did, you would realize that everything you just said is nonsense and, as a bonus, according to that verse, you would be approved unto God. Your analysis of Col 2:20 is particularly laughable. Where do you...
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    Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

    Those sites are surely not Acts 28 sites, which is the only form of dispensationalism that is meaningful and the only one I pay any attention to. Probably Acts 2, as I said in my last post, although the mid-Acts people are also foolish enough to believe the rapture is for them. No one today...