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So, let me get this straight: your point was the point I was making. So instead of just saying, 'yeah, I agree', you decided upon a somewhat convoluted way of 'agreeing' without actually coming TO the point. Got it.

Well, in John's imagery here, the chaff seems to be the wicked, wouldn't you say? He's not using the 'good grain vs the weeds' analogy in quite the same way Jesus does in Matt 13; here John is speaking about the actual harvest process and what is determined good and bad, in terms of said...

True....although, I think we can 'enjoy' God in more ways than just joy. Joy is a pure, happy emotion, and I think we can still...delight...in the Lord even when we don't feel joy. Even in our mourning, fear, or maybe even righteous anger, we can experience a certain pleasure in knowing who our...

I'm very much afraid I'm not following your point, sorry. Are you suggesting that it is not the wicked, as such, that are sifted and burned, but works of flesh in all. That we may expect all to be blessed as we see such wicked works gathered out of us at the 'harvest'? If we do a search through...

Uh, huh. Now...how's about you present a scripture verses beside every single one of those points. You know, the ones saying that we can't 'see the Christ', but we can 'see the son of man'. That would be dandy, thanks. Because, when I read my bible, I do see these titles given to Jesus. I see...

Except, that's not what it says, you've just twisted the entire meaning to suit you're wacky idea. Well done! Lets see what 1 Thess chapter 5 says about Jesus, shall we: For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us so that whether...

I cannot imagine what you are trying to emphasize with that little story, but whatever, it still highlights my point: if you 'go back' to a place you've been previously, you are "returning" to it. Therefore any scripture that states Jesus, as Christ OR Son of Man, is "coming again" is speaking...

The Westminster shorter catechism says "The chief end of man is to glorify God and enjoy him forever". I always liked that. Especially the 'spin' John Piper put on it: we glorify God BY enjoying him forever. How do we 'enjoy' God the most fully? I think Jesus tells us. Love the Lord your God...

I don't think it's a bad idea to have a set idea on eschatology. But I think it behooves us all to have an open and somewhat flexible mind. The very call in the bible to "keep watch" implies, I think, not only to be ready at all times, but to watch, listen, weigh everything we see against...

I wasn't commenting on WHAT they were about, but rather WHO they were about. Taken has declared that Jesus 'the Christ' will not be returning...only 'the Son of Man'. If you can credit it. That's like saying "I" won't be going anywhere, just "me"...one and the same. But, since you bought it up...

I think the whole "thief in the night to Rapture the church" came about because of desire, not out of faithful exegesis of the text. A bit like the whole "Tribulation Saints" idea. There's not a single shred of biblical evidence that points to a 'new class' of Christian that exists after the...

Lol! Oh goodness yes...not a single person in our congregation has a tattoo! Of course, we're a very small, rural church, and most members are above 60. And Baptist...did I mention Baptist?

Undoubtedly. And the sort of differences between the Church and Israel probably matters as well. I'm an Amillennialist, but I do not hold to 'replacement theology', as many would call it. I do believe in a future restoration of Israel. However, I do not see a separate...ah...line of dealings...

Well...i will grant that it could be that way. I have heard it convincingly argued the other, and it would seem to me that the passage supports a natural reading of the other. But, as I said to Taken, I'm not dogmatic on this particular passage. I don't know that it matters, greatly, who are the...

All I am saying is that this passage tells us something about order. And the servants of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ So the servants said to him, ‘Then do...

Right. So, you say that Christ's "coming in the clouds" is NOT a 'return', as taught by Pre-tribs. However, here are the passages they BASE the 'Rapture' on: For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede...

Jesus, the Son of Man IS Christ, who IS God. Why do you think Jesus said to the disciples "whoever has seen me has seen the Father". (John 14:9) Question: what does "come again" mean in the context of a person having been in a place and then...I don't know...returning...to it? If you really...

So...you're saying that Christ's 'descent' into the clouds here on earth to gather all the Christians to him, is NOT to be considered, in any way, a "return"? Is that right? Even though he has, strictly, left his place by the Father's side to do this, and even though the bible speaks (as the...

In general parlance, what is seen is considered known. Hence, every instance of "I see", can have substituted "I know", making all the statements equivalent without loss of meaning. Therefore the question is: what do you mean by "I know"; everything else seems irrelevant.