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If we're not receiving trials and tests isn't that a good thing. Doesn't that mean we're in God's will. Isn't life suppose to be joyful and good? I don't even know what I'm doing here. Your whole life, and here you are. You have dementia, my life is perfect. Explain that to me. Sometimes the...

What are the consequences at the Bema for doing bad in the body? 2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. I agree it's not the Bema, but I do believe it's for...

but wouldn't that take free will away from mankind. the things we do in the body are not a reflection of crowns and rewards, 2 Cor 5 especially? 2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the...

How do we stop loving and following Jesus if we are sealed until redemption. I think trials come whether we want them to or not, kind of like change.

So what is considered "not traveling". Thank u Stranger. How do we not go through the trial. Is that even possible? Is it even biblical to lose crowns and rewards at the Bema?

lol u crack me up again mj im on h learning drug, but wouldnt that take free will away from mankind. The things we do in the body are not a reflection of crowns and rewards, 2 Cor 5 especially? God bles 2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may...

So how does a believer become least and great in the kingdom, what commands is hee talking about The Fulfillment of the Law Matt 5:17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and...

Every time this topic is brought up it turns out weird because crowns and rewards are spiritual and faith based, faith unseen. only God can see. only God knows what crowns and rewards truly mean in the afterlife, is probably why scripture describes it "as though somethin strange were happening...

Right mjr, so if we can't earn crowns and rewards by what we do on earth then why do we receive them?

Why do you think he came down to earth in the flesh, 1 Tim 3:16, 2 Tim 1:10. Genesis 1:1 (NIV) Genesis 1:1 (NIV) 1 - CROWN 1 - CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS— LOVED THE LORD'S APPEARING - 2 Tim 4:8 2 - CROWN 2 - INCORRUPTIBLE CROWN— DISCIPLINED BODIES / SELF-CONTROL - 1 Cor 9:25-27 3 - CROWN 3 -...

Well, ask yourself why are we receiving crowns and rewards in the first place. Is it because of what we're doing on earth, trials and tests on earth?

How are crowns and rewards not the result of passing His trials and tests? I would think they're linked.

A spiritual test. Deu 8:2 Remember how the LORD your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands. Genesis 1:1 (NIV)

I agree, God isn't a rapist. It is up to us to believe and confess, Rom 10:9. God bless

What are your thoughts on the word "saved" in the Greek in Rom 10:9. :rolleyes: Oh we're doing something, believing and confessing BOL. Right, spiritual growth only comes if we cooperate. It has nothing to do with losing salvation. Your doctrine fails when you start throwing believers into...

God doesn't rape people, but people certainly rape God by their unbelief and sin nature and denying the Son and their false relgions. God bless

Rom 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved (sózó). sózó: to save Original Word: σῴζω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: sózó Phonetic Spelling: (sode'-zo) Short Definition: I save, heal Definition...

But don't we win or lose crowns and rewards at the Bema Seat? 1 Cor 9:24-27, Rev 3:11.

What is considered a test from God?

That's another question. How do you know what you're going through is a test from God. When the subject is spiritual it's more confusing isn't it. :)