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Gentiles first and then the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman. The feasts of God tell us there will be two raptures.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. The tribulation of those days is over before the wrath of God begins. That said, I think he still has the Church going through the wrath of God.

There are two raptures. And both are before the wrath of God. And many can't find one.

Rev 3 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Where does it say the crown of life is not gold

Oh boy. You don't believe they were eating and drinking UNTIL the day Noah entered the ark. You don't think that's logical. And then you claim I am changing scripture to fit my doctrine. Oh boy. My doctrine is the scripture. You are changing scripture and don't even understand that you are. How...

That's not the Church being raptured after the tribulation. The Church is already in heaven as He comes in an hour that you think not. There is a reason there are 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes as they are the second harvest. No you have the wrong starting point. It starts with the...

Why would I give up the truth. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. It never once occurs to you that you have the Church going through the wrath of God. We are not...

I didn't abandon post trib. Still believe there is a post trib rapture at the 6th seal..........immediately after the tribulaiton there is a rapture. I just realized there is also a rapture when you think not. The fig tree has two harvests. There will be two raptures. You only think you refuted...

Paul spoke of two. 1 Thes 4 has one and 1 Cor 15 the other. I know. It's speaking of two raptures I know. The other is for the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman. Why is this a strawman? Do you or do you not have the Church on earth during the wrath of God. Oh. Ok. The Church...

Jesus has returned as He said. The elders have crowns. Right. It is humans that are promised crowns. And Christ in Rev 3 say He is coming and don't let anyone take your crown. Obviously, He has come. Rev 3 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

The second coming is absolutely immediately after the tribulation of those days. That occurs at the 6th seal. It is the second harvest seen here........... Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden...

Can you direct me to the post where I said there was no Christians after Rev 4. I don't recall posting that. Maybe you have me confused with someone else? Don't think I said that. Could you show me the post where I said that? Don't believe I said that either. Got the post? It does. Here's...

Not likely at all. These elders have crowns. Rev 3 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Jesus has come. The elders have their crowns. I don't need to claim that as there are multiple proofs. This is out of context. We are told to WATCH so we...

Jesus likened His coming before wrath to the days of Noah. Noah was shut in the ark 6 days before the flood. No, No absolutely no. They were eating and until drinking marrying and giving in marriage until the day Noah entered the ark. Matthew 24 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also...

Are you unable to draw a logical conclusion from the text. First thing Noah is told is to enter the ark. He is told in 7 days that the flood would come. Genesis 7 9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And it came to pass...

I ain't the one doin the twistin. Tis ye. How is it possible for Noah, his family and all the animals to enter the ark on the self same day and obey God and enter the ark when he was told. You say it took 7 days for Noah to enter the ark with animals. How can that be if they all loaded on the...

And yet they were eating and drinking until the day that Noah entered the ark. They were sealed in by God 6 days before the flood. But the very day Lot left Sodom, destruction came. This day is the Day of the Lord. This is describing two different comings of the Lord.

You read without understanding. What is the first thing God told Noah to do? Genesis 7 1 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Do you think Noah obeyed? Genesis 7 5 And Noah did according unto all...

Yeah, the old ignore the text and claim symbolism. Here are those 24 elders casting those so called symbolic crown to Jesus. Rev 4 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne...

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