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  1. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I have explained Daniel 9:24-27 several times before. You neither read or remember. So you have assumed that I have not explained the second part of the verses you quoted, which is not true. Anyway, its late tonight as I just got home. So I will probably respond tomorrow morning. Have a...
  2. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Wrong-o. You have removed the part in red. Dan 9:26-27 (26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end...
  3. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Of course, so were the Jewish leaders in Christ's day. And all those without spiritual discernment. I am on the phone and on my way to pickleball tonight. I will respond later. You should know that I have a life too. Sorry, you can't remove part of verses like this. Response later.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Handling the Word of God deceitfully is changing or corrupting the word by mixing it with humanism or worldly inventions, maybe even the babblings of Josephus, anything in order to make it acceptable to those who will not receive a divine interpretation directly from the Spirit in authority of...
  5. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Very unlikely. You have not refuted anything I wrote yet! Again, what are you talking about? Modernist cultism? You are wasting your time on this childish speculation.
  6. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    LOL!! Not according to Scripture. Luk 19:41-44 (41) And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, (42) Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. (43) For the days shall...
  7. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I'm sorry, but your statement appears to suggest a lack of understanding of what is written in Scripture. The events you mentioned, such as flying scorpions, the physical Mark of the Beast, and one supernatural man, are not what Scripture actually talked about. Spiritual discernment is all I can...
  8. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You do not make any sense. I use Scripture to disprove the doctrine of Dispensational Premillennialism and all theories of Preterism.
  9. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Like the skulls of Jews in Christ's day? Like the skulls of the Dispenstiationists? In other words, they do not have spiritual discernment of the temple and the city that Christ really talked about. What they have is carnal minds that relies on physical fulfillment to build a doctrines upon.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Looks like Davy has done his homework that Preterists failed to do. This is just an example of many stones that are still sitting upon other stones within the city of Jersualem since 70AD.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    That is what people with carnal minds thought Christ was talking the destruction of physical temple building. This was NOT what Christ had in mind. Just like Christ told the Jews to eat his flesh and drink it blood when the Jews thought He meant literally but Christ was pointing to a spiritual...
  12. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Sounds like you decided to hold on to "dual fulfillment." One spiritual and one literal. Not going to work. Christ doesn't teach that. Sorry.
  13. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Weak argument and poor analogy. I see that you really haven’t refuted my position with a single verse. See… the Jewish Pharisees were expecting a LITERAL KINGDOM when Christ rebuked them. Luk 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he...
  14. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    And I also add that the truth is many Jews looked upon the Gentiles as Dogs and Swine and gloried in the fact that they were the chosen seed of Abraham that could never fall from that (in their minds). Even as many in the premillennial/Dispensational/Preterism church today think the church can...
  15. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    How about checking with your Bible before responding? Humm? Sigh... did you check with Scripture? Acts 15:16-17 "After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of...
  16. TribulationSigns

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You must be a very confused man who made a false assumption. Where did you get the idea that I am "anti-reformationist" from?? I am not going to play your distraction games here because you have avoided answering the questions I posted for you that clearly refute your preterism doctrine...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Oh? Assumption is the mother of all errors. You do not know me at all yet falsely label me as a papist because you dont like what I wrote that refuted your preterism doctrine. No, im sorry but I’m part of Christian Reformed Church. Sola Scriptura.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Papist?! LOL. Not even close. You’re distracting subject and attempt to labeling people. Do what I asked or admit that you can’t gain say or resist.