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How is it possible to discuss this with someone who can't see two judgments taking place in Rev. 20? One is for the believers "on such the second death has no power" and the second, which is "whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life." The scripture says "this is the second death."...

You guys have a gift with mixing scripture among the believer and the unbeliever! The Judgement Seat of Christ is for believers only, those who have been washed in the Blood of the Lamb. The Great White Throne of Judgement is for unbelievers only. They stand naked and guilty before God through...

You do err, M-I. Through the Grace of God given to believing man, he is spotless, perfect in the eyes of God. Believing man is in Christ, as Paul said, and he is covered by his faith. Disobedience is met with chastening, not rejection from the family of God! Sin was judged at Calvary! The...

I'm sorry to say to all my RCC friends, it is a works based religion trying to insert the work of Christ. Grace and works does not and cannot mix! Rom. 11:6 "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace...

Let me explain something. What God wants from us is to allow the Holy Spirit to take away all the sin in our life. That is all the sin we keep practicing and won't let go of. This is what John is telling us in his epistles, stop practicing sin. If we order our behavior (cooperate with Christ)...

Paul never claimed perfection as you are doing! He claimed that he kept faith in Jesus Christ. You are being somewhat childish about this , BH!

Gal. 5:16 is speaking of the sins concerning the lust of the flesh. Paul actually lists these sins in chp. 5. A born-again Christian should have no problem with these things. The sins I'm speaking of are the sins we don't even realize we are committing until later. This is why I say it is...

If you commit yourself to a complete study of the New Covenant in Christ's blood, we can then have a conversation on equal ground. Until then, there can be no conversation! You have no interest whatsoever in the New Covenant, you are still living in the Old.

Hey, have it your way, BH! I'm finished with it. Said my part on the matter.

Very good! the Pope himself could have written this. Now show in scripture where all this you have written is necessary for man to be saved. Otherwise it's a requirement made by man and not scripture. Your post here is exactly why many consider the RCC to be a cult! It's organized false...

OK, BH, have it your way. Drive on with your faith in "self" and Christ and see where it gets you. But I will show you again where Paul took Rom. 8:13 from. Luke 9:23 " And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."...

Only someone who has no knowledge of our sanctification could write such a thing! The same faith that saves us is the same faith that keeps us saved! You are trying to DO it yourself, when you should have the faith that He will do it through you. It's all about faith, BH! Just giving up of...

WOW! That's a strong statement. Do we all have to come through the RCC in order to be saved?

Brother, I don't want to argue this with you. What we are disagreeing on is whether or not the Eternal Logos became fully human while remaining fully God. It is my opinion that man trying so desperately to prove that Christ is indeed God, that we have lost sight of His humanity. These things...

Exactly what they are doing, and as the Pharisees of old, they are blinded by their works of righteousness!

What was it I said in my first post to this thread, "in one ear and out the other?" God doesn't disown His sons when they commit sin. He chastens them to bring them back in order. Man is fallen man with a nature of sinning, that is something you will continue to deny.

The "likeness of men" is not stating that Christ wasn't a man/human. It is stating that Christ has come into a new state of being when He became Man.

I thought as much! You refuse to see that EVERY son is chastened because EVERY son does some wrong at one time or another! Of course, except you and your merry band of perfectionists.

Every born-again believer sins at one time of another! If you think not, you are deceiving yourself. This is why Grace is given to man for salvation, and not by his works. Man can backslide into sin, "the sin that so easily besets us" as Hebrews says. If born-again man continues in that sin...