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Serious bible students study the KJV. All serious Bible English speaking students study a KJV.

No that’s not what Paul said and I don’t know why you guys have this obsession with dead earthly bodies. We are not our human bodies, we are souls placed into a body to experience life in this realm. When our souls are done here on this earth God takes our souls out this human body and puts us...

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Oh I’m agreeing completely with Paul. Paul is using grain and the plant body the grain produces to illustrate what the resurrection is. Bare grain gets planted in the earth and God gives that seed a plant body. If the soil conditions are right, that plant will produce a NEW SEED and when that...

You are correct, the falling away is an instantaneous event. The falling away is repentance and the death of the old man so that the new man, Christ can sit in the temple of God.

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1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. What is the bare grain in verse 37? What is the body the...

The resurrection has absolutely nothing to do with anything literally dead and these very verses SHOULD correct your grevious error but as usual you twist any verse that don’t line up with your made up version of what the Bible says. You are in serious error by denying what is plainly written.

Deny it all you want but if you think our soul is not dead in sins and trespasses and needs to be raised to eternal life in Christ then I can’t help you.

We’ve already discussed this on another thread and you did the same thing in that you’re doing here. BARE GRAIN is not the body, BARE GRAIN is the soul. 1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It (the soul) is sown in corruption (the body); it is raised in incorruption: But you...

You are correct those verses don’t say anything about a group resurrection and since you don’t understand the resurrection your ADDING spin to those verses.

God sent the armies to destroy Israel so how is that an abomination?

I’m sorry I was multitasking, I should’ve said where do any of those verses say all believers will be changed to have immortal bodies at the same time.

They can’t prove pre-trib anymore than someone can prove post or mid trib because there is no such thing as “the rapture”. “The rapture” verses are about the translation of Gods people from this world to the next world when the Lord comes for each of us individually when it’s time to leave this...

If your talking about 1 Corinthians 15 then show me where it says anything about an immortal body. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound...

Isa 34:8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

You’re right my bad.

You do realize that the Jews missed Jesus because they could see the spiritual things Jesus was taking about… think about it.

We’ll just keep on listening out for that trumpet. You for some reason can’t see spiritual things.

The only difference between an Old Testament Christian and a New Testament Christian was the label assigned to the believer, whether they looked toward the cross or back at the cross and would they have direct access to heaven or would they have to go to Abraham’s bosom. In the Old Testament...