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Like I said before doctrine come by here a little there a little.

The first trumpet was the voice of God from Mt Sinai the last trumpet was the voice of God from Mt Sion. The last trumpet is not a literal trumpet. The whole idea of trumpets being the voice of God comes from here: Num 10:2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make...

No that’s not right. God is the God of the living not the God of the dead. All believers before and after the cross had/have eternal life. Before the cross they left this world and went to Abraham’s bosom, after the cross they went to heaven to be with lord as we do after the cross. Either way...

Nah, that’s some made up stuff. The Holy Spirit doesn’t go out to harm the earth nor do 4 angels ever represent the Holy Spirit. Revelation 7 and Ezekiel 9 are the exact same stories. Ezk 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and...

Yeah I’m not a jerk contrary to popular opinion but I also posted that for a reason. I sent you a message and you completely understood what I meant but probably no one else understood it . The Bible is written the same way.

Agreed, but the 144,000 aren’t dead, they’ve been redeem. In other words their sins had been forgiven.

There was no redemption before the cross right? The first to be redeemed on the earth were those where Jesus said (me paraphrasing) “thy sins are forgiven, go and sin no more”.

The 144,000 sealed in Revelation 7 were people that were alive and were sealed to be protected from the wrath of God. Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Isa 34:1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it. Isa 34:2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he...

The verse doesn’t say that these are dead people, it says they “were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb”. These would be the first Jewish people to enter the kingdom of heaven on earth…. This kingdom of heaven. Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the...

@rwb may be right in saying they were the Old Testament dead in Christ but I tend to think the 144,000 were the first to enter the kingdom of heaven that Jesus brought in when he came.

It could be but it could also be the 144,000 that we’re sealed in Revelation 7. They heard the voice of Jesus before those that were under the alter.

Who were the first people on earth that were redeemed by the shed blood of Christ?

LOL!!!

I think I’m good on that one but thanks for the heads-up!

You're in the flood now. Not long and the vast majority of people will be killed.

What do you mean by "they are the first fruit Jewish Gathering"?

God coming down from heaven to avenge the murder of his son isn’t recorded in the gospels it’s recorded in 2 Samuel 22. 2Sa 22:5 When the waves of death compassed me, the floods of ungodly men made me afraid; 2Sa 22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me...

In pretty sure their flesh was consumed away when God came down from heaven and avenged the murder of his son.

Ah 4D chess right. Is that why he still proudly calls himself the father of the kill shot and still doesn't warn his people not to take it?