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  1. justaname

    Poll on OSAS

    Teaching by Stan: God only designed Adam and Eve. Scripture: From the ESV 13 For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. 14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. - Psalm 139:13-14 Here is...
  2. justaname

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    The human nature answer is rather vague. You would be better to say I don't know why some choose God and others don't. Some love flying because God designed them that way, to love flying. Yet some love God because they came to that all on their own, not because God designed them that...
  3. justaname

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    WW, Just a quick response. First you did not comment concerning how you believe some love darkness while others do not. Is your teaching that some are inherently good by nature? From my reading of the Scripture concerning the judgement humanity loves darkness over the Light of the world...
  4. justaname

    Poll on OSAS

    Let me start by answering the second half. God is not controlling your thoughts (as I believe you to be in Christ) any more than He controls the thoughts of those not in Christ. We are agents making free choices. Our choices are based on our greatest desires at any given moment. The desire...
  5. justaname

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    Stan, Your attempt to pigeon hole me is rather futile as I do not come from some organizational indoctrination. At best you could say I am conservative evangelical. Yet even here I have differing views concerning the Eucharist than most of my ilk. I like to say I am a disciple of the Lord...
  6. justaname

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    This view I truly do not understand. I do see a correlation to WW's position here maybe reading my response to him might help clarify my position. I really don't get where God is responsible for the actions of wicked men. You need to explain how you came to that conclusion.
  7. justaname

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    My point is God does select individuals for His purpose as given through various examples in Scripture. My argument is those who do receive salvation are no different. It is for God's plan and purpose and they are elected through such. They are not selected because God "foreknew" they would...
  8. justaname

    Poll on OSAS

    Stan, Your remarks are disheartening...you continually attempt to profile me with RT...I am not. Your interpretation of Scheriner does not contradict anything...we become converted...we are elect from before the foundations of the world. It is his study of the word translated foreknowledge...
  9. justaname

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    The boasting comes in where you say you made the better choice than those who chose not to believe Jesus is the Messiah. The boasting comes in where you on your on free will came to the understanding that you needed a Savior as opposed to God being the One to show you... I hope this helps you...
  10. justaname

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    This is from N. T. Wright concerning the 1 Corinthians 1 passage and it's context... 26 Think back to your own call, my brothers and sisters. Not many of you were wise in human terms. Not many of you were powerful. Not many were nobly born. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to...
  11. justaname

    When Mary called her little Boy in to supper, what did she call Him?

    I am far from a scholar yet I believe this to be brief and accurate... Yeshua (ישוע, with vowel pointing יֵשׁוּעַ – yēšūă‘ in Hebrew)[1] was a common alternative form of the name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ ("Yehoshuah" – Joshua) in later books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period...
  12. justaname

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    Firstly the idea we are discussing is omniscience not omnipotence. Then your comment is way off base about the Trinity...if Jesus has not all the attributes of God then He is not God, but something lesser. Yet the Orthodox view of Christology is Jesus is fully God and fully human. This means...
  13. justaname

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    I would say no I don't believe that...
  14. justaname

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    Thank you for the spelling lesson Barrd. I did comment though that we freely come to the Lord. We do freely choose Him, yet He first chose us is what I believe.
  15. justaname

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    StanJ, Please re-read post #39 and explain how I attempt to ignore John 6:64...it is plainly displayed. The idea of foreknowledge in verse 64 is your eisegesis. Easily it is understood through Jesus' omniscience. And you have yet to deal with verse 65...still deflecting. *YAWN Then you...
  16. justaname

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    Anyone can read the threads and see you StanJ have deflected up to this point. I digress... Let's start with the one you refuse to deal with and have never dealt with in any of our discussions. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the...
  17. justaname

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    Stan, You followed your red herring with another. In respect to foreknowledge you have said nothing but THUS SAYITH STANJ. Deal with the John 6 passage... Deal with the 1Corinthians passage... Deal with the James passage... Deal with the John 1 passage... Give me one scripture that says God...
  18. justaname

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    No one denies belief being the condition, rather how one comes to that belief. It is God who chose us in Christ. Why do you ignore the Scriptures given and submit a red herring? Also concerning Romans the Scripture states though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or...
  19. justaname

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    I don't believe you allow a philosophy to explain your view on salvation, rather election. Yet even here I am certain your view of the Scriptures is what shapes your opinion. But in order to achieve your conclusion of God choosing based on foreknowledge you must use a philosophical premise. All...
  20. justaname

    Poll on OSAS

    Assuredly not "all individuals" are or historically have been privy to the gospel message. This case reduces the capacity of the language given in the text. This in mind with the exclusion of universalism forces the reader to surmise a limited understanding of those who receive God's salvific...