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Barrd, No, I strongly disagree with you that Moses wrote the laws other than the 10 commandments and God simply endorsed them. I think that is a very dangerous view that is once again seems to be based out of convenience and your own personal agenda rather than anything remotely found in...

Yes, I understand. I am very sorry for your loss and I am sure you had to take on a whole lot of responsibilities and struggles due to that tragic event. I cannot imagine... Yes, we are co-laborers with Christ. I truly believe that. I don't pretend to understand why God has commanded some...

Barrd, Well. We agree on something. Abuse does not belong in Christ's church. I am not trying to make light of the plight of women in America or throughout history. However, these verses simply have nothing to do with a woman's value, intellect or ability to work or get an education. It...

1. What is your point, Barrd? Do you think showing me some ads about women being beaten is going to change my views on whether I should believe the Bible or not? I never said men should beat women, nor does the Bible teach such a notion. Jesus did not oppress women and neither did Paul. I...

What are you talking about. The devil quoted Scripture. Scripture is God's Word. Just as he did in the Garden, the Devil quoted God in order to twist God's command and make people believe a lie. Yes, the devil quoted something God said in order to try to mislead Jesus. However, Jesus knew...

Barrd, I think you are projecting here. Your suggestion that perhaps most of people's doctrine on this matter throughout history was a result of wanting to keep women in their place is really disturbing to me. I believe we are to believe the best about our brothers and sisters in Christ. It...

I understand. I would just say that I dont think that scholars and teachers throughout church history were trying to be jerks. I think they were trying to obey the Word of God, as am I. To me it looks like someone, perhaps a woman, praying and lifting her hands with a covered head. But, then...

And Im the one who is being sexist? I know you would like to think that our Christian church history with regards to women is simply men acting like immature boys....but as we have seen...there are those pesky Words of God we have to contend with. I am so sure because there is a mountain of...

The Word of God is true, but devils twist the truth of Scripture for personal agendas and vain glory. This is what the devil was doing and what Jesus rejected. You should be cautious of how you dismiss Scripture and how you pit Paul against Jesus in order to exalt yourself as superior to...

Barrd, I affirm that all these women were used by God. However this did not mean that Israel decided to make women priests serving in the temple, ignore instruction about male/female roles written about in the Law or cause them to be teachers in the local synagogues. Dont you find it strange...

I'll try to respond briefly to your comments, Barrd. 1. Thanks for giving me the benefit of doubt and the apology. I mean it. 2. Perhaps it would help if you quoted the verses you think prohibit 1 Tim. 2 from what it appears to mean. I personally do not see any conflict with other verses...

Okay, so now lets look at President Burleson’s blog. :rolleyes: So, basically it seems his argument is that for 2,000 years, Christianity was nothing more than a cult. Really? Moreover, he is apparently the pastor of a Baptist church. To my knowledge, Baptists do not ordain women. Does...

Um, you do realize Jesus did not author any of the Gospels, right? smh

Barrd, again, I am disappointed that you would continually employ this kind of tactic in your responses. Let’s address the Scriptures rather than implying that my real motivation is some sort of hidden sexist agenda. If you choose to believe I am a sexist bigot, then that is your choice. I am...

I dont know if you read my reply to Stan, but I did reply, at length....and it got deleted because the screen refreshed before I could hit post. I will write it again in a word doc and copy and paste it to prevent it from happening again.

Hey Stan, Sounds good. I'll try to look into some stuff later today. I just wrote a very extensive reply to Barrd's material and my browser did a refresh and disposed of it all. Sigh. So I am going to get some work done and come back to it later when I am in a better frame of mind...lol...

Barrd, First, I do not discount women or their value in the Kingdom or their roles in history among God''s people. I think this is a very unfortunate and unfair line of reasoning you are using. Essentially you are suggesting that I hold my views because I am sexist and have a low view of...

Hey Stan, Let me know what Moo says. I am interested in hearing him expound on it. As you can see, I took that quote from another well-known commentary and I would be very surprised if the author was misrepresenting him. I don't know that any of these scholars are showing and...

I agree that evolution does not = atheism. However, one would have to have their head in the sand to argue that evolution has caused many to dismiss Scripture or that evolutionists do not actively attack religion as "superstition" or a means of perpetuating ignorance. People used to use...

Barrd, Previously I saw that you noted that Junia was your rationale for teaching men. I would encourage you to rethink this rationale. Even if it were concluded that Junia was an Apostle, why would this cause you to think that 1 Cor. 14 and 1 Tim. 2 are not binding? Could it be that Junia...