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The whole point of the Enoch situation is to show that Enoch’s translation is exactly what happens to every single believer throughout time. Believers in Jesus whether from Enoch’s time or our time never die. When it’s time to go home God will translate us from this world to the next. With the...

Here’s what I see and why I believe what I believe about Enoch. First and foremost Hebrews 11 specifically said that “these all died in faith NOT receiving the promises”. Also it is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgement. And you also have flesh and blood can’t inherit the...

How do you understand this verse? 2Co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. Enoch is immortal in heaven but immortality can’t come until we’ve been “clothed upon”...

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Enoch and Elijah’s body were flesh and blood so why would you think their flesh and blood bodies went to heaven?

I don’t agree but I certainly see the logic behind your belief.

From what I can gather from the Bible the new heaven and the new earth come at the same time. The old heaven was Abraham’s (paradise), the new heaven is where we go today. That’s all I need to know to get the timing of Revelation 21. If the old heaven (Abraham’s bosom) went away with the...

I know a lot of people believe that but the book of Hebrews is crystal clear that all those in chapter 11 including Enoch died. Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that...

Good point, yes I think that’s an indicator that heavenly Jerusalem was here at that time. According tho Daniel 9:27 Jesus caused the daily sacrifice to cease during the week. Sorry for the delay, yesterday was a hectic day.

Yes, the kingdom of heaven inside is, not heaven where God is.

Do you think we as gentile Christian’s are the Israel of God?

I pretty much agree with you Grafted Branch but I believe heavenly Jerusalem came down when Jesus came or at least when began to teach. I think that’s what’s being taught in Matthew 12:47. Mat 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak...

Consider this Douggg. The Jewish race IS NOT God’s chosen people. Gods chosen people have always been people who obey God’s voice and keep his covenant. Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people...

I wonder if the Christians murdered in China and Islamic countries would agree with this.

The Bible interprets itself and we have to let it do that or we’ll end up in error.

I take "before" to mean the sun turning into darkness, and the moon into blood is a completely separate event from the day of the Lord and it happens prior to the day of the Lord. I may be mistaken but I believe I shared Psalm 18 with you but it was your opinion that those verses were about...

Do we as believers have eternal life right now?

Those where the Scribes and Pharisees that lorded over, killed, abused, and took advantage of the righteous Jews. They were cut asunder and the kingdom was taken from them and given to the righteous Jews and Gentiles.

I think when it comes to 2 Peter 3:10 we have to look at everything related to the day of Lord. In Acts 2 Peter says that everything from verse 16 to verse 21 was fulfilled at Pentecost. Isn't reasonable to assume the day of the Lord happened in AD70? Act 2:16 But this is that which was...

Can you see what God is revealing about the resurrection in 2Ti 2:18? The way God reveals this key component in undestanding the resurrection makes it completely hidden from the world. 2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 2Ti 2:18 Who...

It was the end of that age. The second coming was the resurrection but for some reason people put the second coming way out in the future. I don’t know of anything in Matthew 24 that could possibly be seen as future. This again is going back to the assumption that the resurrection wasn’t the...