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Did David trust that his sons, Amnon (he raped his own half-sister--David's righteous daughter) and his son Absalom, (he killed Amnon and would have killed his father and usurped his throne) had God's blessing on them?

Yes--I guess the Calvinists are saying that not only did the baby go to eternal punishment, but David did as well?

It is easily observed that God does take innocent life. It is His to take. The rules that He sets for us are not binding on Him--His judgements are totally righteous. It is presumptuous of you to suggest that you can judge God. You are making the atheists' arguments for them.

Too bad you are not John Calvin--then you could have me burned at the stake. :p p.s. See my other post on the end of page 66 for my thoughts on this. I'm too lazy to repeat it.

Of course God did not lie in the Garden--Adam and Eve did die spiritually on that day (their apparent shame--loss of innocence--indicates that)--but also their bodies began to die on that day. The Hebrew actually reads, "Dying you will die..." Apparently, the Creation is capable of making...

Some of us have other things to do beside responding to Calvinists on the internet, you know. Bodies do not sin without the soul directing them to sin--do dead bodies sin? The Book of Ezekiel says, "The soul who sins will die." The Bible tells us that sin originates in the "heart" (see Mark...

Those who are resurrected will have totally NEW bodies. No death or disease, obviously because the Bible says "no more sorrow or pain." How old is a soul? How old is a spirit?

God has never promised that He would not send innocent people to die. What about the estimated 70,000,000 Christian martyrs from the 2,000 year history of the Church? Were they not righteous? BTW, how does Proverbs 17:15 square with the Calvinist notion of Total Depravity, anyway?

I do not agree that it is the "logical conclusion". We will have to agree to disagree on this.

God has the advantage of seeing the End from the Beginning. You, I and other mortal beings do not possess this ability--we have no right to take innocent life, but God obviously does. He sent His wholly innocent Son to be tortured to death.

Yes, the wicked are born and reared in wicked societies--not that it excuses them of personal responsibility for the sins they have committed while physically alive. Abraham was raised in a wicked society yet he was judged righteous by God because he believed God. With your last line, you are...

I do not know as I have not been there--have you? One tends to think so.

Did not Christ remove the spiritual curse placed on Adam, for those who are covered under the Blood of Christ?

There is the death of a mortal body and there is the death of the soul and spirit. You shouldn't confuse the two--Jesus certainly didn't. "Do not fear those who kill the body. Fear the One who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna." What is so sacrosanct about the Council of Carthage...

Was not the Holy Spirit who inspired the Book of Ezekiel aware that "Adam acted as our representative"? We must tell Him. But first, I guess we must interpret what that means for Him.

The fact that we are all, since the Fall of our primordial ancestors, born into a contagiously sinful world, assures that we will eventually sin, becoming sinners. Jesus apparently did not feel the need to castigate babies and children--we have no record of that. What we do have is a record of...

Read the Romans 9:11 passage I cited. Babies DO NOT SIN. Beside that, the Book of Ezekiel (among other passages) tells us that the children of the guilty are only responsible for their own sins. Those innocent of sin (small children and infants) among Amalek went to Paradise--which was...

No--you have turned what I said into something that I HAVE NOT SAID. You are the one who have turned the message into one of doom and gloom. Revelation 20:12 "And the dead were judged according to what they had done, as recorded in the books." What of babies and small children? Are they not...

While I would agree that punishment is meted out for unrepented sin committed while in the body, I also believe that clemency will be granted to some who have no knowledge of Christ. Otherwise, the GWTJ will have aspects of a "kangaroo court" (all who appear there will be judged and sent to...

I don't disagree with you here. But, the only problem is that sometimes, the Greek word kosmos is used of the universe and its order, and other times it is used to indicate the earth and even occasionally, the earth's inhabitants. At other times, another Greek word, oikoumenes is chosen to...