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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Yes, it is late and I am very tired. Sorry. :rolleyes:
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Yes, sorry: 1 Thessalonians 5:23 Paul clearly implies that his readers were possessed of bodies, souls, and spirits. The ancient Greeks would use the word spirit (Greek pneuma) and soul (Greek psuche) interchangeably.
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Arghh! Don't get me started on Reformed theology! It is often an un-biblical mess. How can they deny 1 Thessalonians 5:23 ???!!???
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    A human when he/she is redeemed is comprised of body, soul and spirit fused with the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Would you agree?
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    The Bride of Christ has never really developed a sound pneumatology (the study of the Holy Spirit) in its 2,000 year history. Part of the problem, in my opinion, is that Jewish-Christians were systematically excluded from fellowship in the early Church. It is probably because they were not...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Yes, it should be remembered that the Sophists could "prove" any number of absurd claims using "logic". In that game, whoever controls the "facts" controls the outcome of the inquiry. The dissidents in Soviet Russia were sent to Lefortovo prison, after trial, "for crimes against the state"...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    I think that Greek philosophers before Socrates and Plato were likely more "naive" in their thinking as you put it. Others might say that they were intellectually primitive. Rigorous testing of ideas is, to the Western mind, essential to the process of establishing truth--thus pitting one...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    One of the problems is likely translational. The Hebrew of the Old Testament only contains approximately 5,000 words. English, in comparison, has approximately 110,000 words (with more added every day). The word for "spirit" is, in Hebrew, ruach and the word for "soul" is nephesh. The...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    I do not agree that they are the same at all--Socrates believed that truth was possible to discern--Hegel did not. I know not much of Eastern dialectics--only that Taoism and Buddhism have influenced it a great deal.
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    What I have written stands. I do not respond to the rude demands of others.
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Revelation 21:8 gives the clearest rendering of who is subject to and what the Second Death is: "But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars--their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the Second...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Not sure what happened. I saw what I thought was a prompt from you and responded to that.
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Pastor E.V. Hill runs down a list of sins telling of how the ill-health of aging, prevents this or that sin: "And you say you don't lust after pretty women now..." and then as a low aside he mutters, "and its really because you couldn't do anything about it anymore, anyhow." He caps his...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Just keeping things accurate here, bbyrd. You are quoting Hebrews 9:27 and you have misquoted. It actually reads: "...It is appointed to [mortal] man, once to die, and then the judgment.
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    I think that the Jews, by that time, had been highly influenced by Greek thought. Socrates and Plato, even though Gentiles, would have been seen to have possessed a moral sense (Paul talks about Gentiles, in this regard, in Romans) without even having the Law as a base for that sense.
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Oh, sorry, you wanted to know what I thought was the difference between classical dialectics and Hegelian dialectics. Classical dialectics is generally thought to have been begun by Socrates and expanded upon by Plato. Up till that point, Greek philosophers were more preoccupied with thinking...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Having known a number of Jewish folk who originated from many places, I would say that the assessment is correct, it is NOT a gene pool as much as it is a way of thinking which includes a deliberate way of loving and raising children to excel. While I would suggest that the Israelite/Jewish...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    No--they were separated by about 2,100 years. The Hebrews-Israelites-Jews, at their best, always considered the neighboring heathen nations to be stupid, evil and crazy (not without cause, if you look at the accounts from those nations, like the Ras Shamras documents). Jesus Himself taught...
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    WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

    Since Hegelian dialectic is a form of political manipulation, the opposite, I guess, would be true freedom? Classical dialectics was a philosophical form that attempted to establish truth.