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Whatever, your argument isn't with me, it's what God put in His word. Take it up with Him.

Hi Keras, To hold the stance you do you must be either amil or post-mil. I reviewed your scriptures and as I'm pre-mil I do see those things occurring but after Christ returns for Armageddon, after the sheep and goat judgment, and at the beginning of the millennium. Just different points of...

Hi S4C, Let me see if I got this right. If we don't believe as you do, think as you do or behave as you do then we're all going to hell. This is my understanding of your last post and I'm probably not alone. How nice that you take time out of your busy day to sit in judgment over your brothers...

I think Veteran explained it quite nicely in post #10.

Hi Keras, You've been shown about your faulty interpretation of John 3:13. I agree that it might have been the case before Christ's resurrection but His resurrection changed everything. Your words: "What is the problem in believing in the reality of God's promises? Of a 'heaven on earth'...

Hi Keras, Your words: "I do not agree with Randy Alcorn on this unsupported by scripture theory." The idea of heaven is supported by many scriptures, but I assume you scratched his book off of your recommended list. ;) I'm probably going to regret asking this but you said: "the...

Hi RJP, Do I believe in Darby's teaching of the rapture? No I don't. I really don't understand people's toxic reaction to a simple word. I would agree that Darby popularized the use of the word "rapture", but he didn't invent it. The concept of what the word "rapture" implies, which is simply...

Hi Keras, Your words: "What Randy discusses in Chapter 5, is an intermediate place where our spirit/soul is kept, until the Day of Judgement. That Day for believers will be at the Return and for unbelievers at the end of the Millennium." Yes, he calls it the "present" heaven!!!

Hi Rae, Your words: “You stated that you believe that the anointing was done way before Moses set up the first temporary tabernacle.” I was speaking of the heavenly temple. Your words: “After the Great Sacrifice upon the cross, the ratifying of the New Covenant, the temple in Heaven was...

Hi Rae, Your words: "The anointing of the most Holy (capital H, by the way) refers to the temple in heaven, not the temple on earth. This is a common error amongst Christians, which is why many continually look to Jews and to Jerusalem, instead of at the Christians and the Heavenly Temple. A...

Hi Marcus, Please consider this opinion on the "midst" of the week. Dan. 9:24,27: 24) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting...

Hi David, While I appreciate your efforts at salesmanship, it might be more productive if you actually wrote an OP describing briefly in your words: "Antichrist 2016-2019 is focused on WHEN the Antichrist is revealed, WHERE his home kingdom of Mystery Babylon is, and WHO will be revealed as the...

Hi Retro, Your words, "Heaven is God's throne" because God is SPIRIT (Hebrew: Ruach meaning "wind!") He is called the "Holy Spirit"; that is, the "Ruach haQodesh." Like the wind, "no man hath seen God at any time!" We can see and feel the EFFECTS of God, like we see and feel the EFFECTS of the...

Hi Keras, Your words: "Trekson, I have Randy Alcorns book; Heaven. I would recommend it to anyone, he makes it perfectly clear that at no stage do humans go to heaven. I do actually see the use of Peters quote as unreasonable and kind of silly to think we go to heaven for one day." The first...

Hi RJP, Your words: "Millenialism, which is the foundation of rapturism, has its own digressions. For most of the history of Christendom the notion of pre-millenialism held a primary place in eschatology. Simply stated, the world would achieve utopian status prior to the second coming." As...

HEAVEN There has been a discussion lately on the reality of heaven. I’ve been taught that heaven is the believer’s eternal home and the earth is for the living and in a way, that’s true and (much to my surprise) in a way, it’s not. While pondering this issue and seeking guidance from the Lord...

Hi S4C, Your words:"As far as any "pre-trib rapture," that theory can be scripturally demolished on timing alone...Evangelical Christianity is on the critical list, in freefall, and the pre-trib "rapture" theory is a major component to the end times deception." I don't know why this is so hard...

Hi Keras, I'll say it again, the Church is not Israel, in the sense you try to make it. Most of the prophecies you quoted will be for the living descendants of Israel. The 144,000+.The 144,000 is not the church. God doesn't play name games or numbers games. He says what He means and He means...

Hi S4C, Your words: "I and others will continue to bring the scriptural truth to bear when false doctrines are spewed here. You may carry on with whatever you perceive necessary to accomplish your intended purpose." My only "intended purpose" is to have fellowship and discuss the end-times...

Hi Keras, I'm in the process of doing a study on heaven and in the course of it, I have come to the conclusion that we are both right and both wrong in some areas. It'll be called "Heaven" and I'll admit not everything was as I thought. Looking forward to your input when it's done.