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  1. Trekson

    False Teachers claim the Gog and Magog war is close

    Hi Vet, Your words: " Why... is this false teaching about the Ezekiel 38 & 39 events being for after Christ's future Milennium making rounds today??? My Opinion: 1. to get brethren away... from looking at the nation alignment on that list in Ezek.38 and comparing it with events today. 2. to...
  2. Trekson

    The "HE" of Daniel 9:27

    Hi Retro, I know you don't want to believe that unsaved Israel isn't special anymore but it's the reality. In your Rom. 3 verses you didn't go far enough, so to take a chapter from your book, read on and pay attention to the highlighted parts. Rom. 3:9-30 - "What then? are we better than they...
  3. Trekson

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    Hi Axehead, Your words: "The Rapture theology only flourishes in a nation where no tribulation is happening." That's not a true statement at all. The rapture isn't about "rescue" from the great trib or from torture, imprisonment or martyrdom. The one and only thing the "rapture" is about is...
  4. Trekson

    The "HE" of Daniel 9:27

    Hi Retro, Your words: "One of the fundamental tenets of Messianic Judaism is that we are "Jews and Gentiles worshipping God together." On the outside you have the idea of what the "church" is, however, the spiritual aspect, who we are now, is different. We, (the church) are a new creation made...
  5. Trekson

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    Hi 7, Yes, that is the typical post-trib view, but personally I don't believe the bible gives any time frame for the duration of the great trib. My opinion has lately changed on that and now I'm leaning towards the great trib concluding by the middle of the week.
  6. Trekson

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    Hi 7angels, Your words: " during the great trib God is going to give the devil power to overcome the saints which is the exact opposite that Jesus did for us by giving us all power over the devil. this is why the Lord said that for this reason the trib was going to be cut short or all the saints...
  7. Trekson

    The Significance of the 144,000

    Hi Retro, Your words: “What do you think brought on the anti-semitism of the late first and second centuries?! "KILL THE JEWS! THEY'RE CHRIST-KILLERS!" Boy, talk about an over-romanticized view of scripture (taking your whole post into consideration). I hate to be the one to bust your sparkly...
  8. Trekson

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    Hi 7angels, I'm pre-wrath. Hi Grace, You are free to believe as you wish but I do not appreciate the charge that I need to "twist" scripture to come up with my beliefs. I do not read into it what isn't there before it's time! Let me outline it again, one more time and then show other examples...
  9. Trekson

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    Hi Grace, Your words: "In the correct context of Matthew 24 Jesus was speaking to JEWS not the church concerning events of the Tribulation." That is a valid opinion and one most pre-tribbers hold, however, I believe that Christ was aware of the mission He was going to leave to His disciples and...
  10. Trekson

    Zechariah 14

    Hi MTP, Thanks for your input. I agree that Ez. 38 is speaking of the time of Rev. 20:7-9.
  11. Trekson

    Zechariah 14

    Hi Retro, Your words:"They're convinced by haSatan to gather for battle, they gather together, attack Yerushalayim, and ... FOOM!!! ... charcoal!" I agree that the battle will be short-lived, however, imo, the "convincing" will probably take centuries.
  12. Trekson

    Zechariah 14

    Hi Guys, As you know God has led me to revise my timeline and He is slowly revealing a little bit here and there. Some of this has already in been said in the Timeline Questions post but to make my life easier, I will repeat it here. We know another day of judgment is coming according to Rev...
  13. Trekson

    The Significance of the 144,000

    Hi Retro, Your post is an excellent example of Messianic apologetics (including the one on the "He" topic). However, what they believe is their greatest asset is in reality their greatest failure. Before Christ, they may have had "bragging" rights, but after their rejection of Christ, they will...
  14. Trekson

    False Teachers claim the Gog and Magog war is close

    It doesn't have to be proven, it's just the way it is with ALL OT prophets. If you can show that all of Ezekial is chronological, it will add weight to your position. If you can't, then you can't just pick and choose which parts you want to believe are, just to back up your position.I'm not...
  15. Trekson

    The Significance of the 144,000

    I never said they weren't converts or born again, however at the time of their sealing, they may not be full blown christians yet. I expect they'll spend some of the 1260 days in hiding learning about Christ and the gospel.
  16. Trekson

    False Teachers claim the Gog and Magog war is close

    Hi Guys, I didn't miss it and I believe I have an alternative answer. I'll probably post an article on Zech. 14 tomorrow. I'll look forward to your input. ;)
  17. Trekson

    False Teachers claim the Gog and Magog war is close

    Sorry Richard, Your words: "As a previous post stated, when Ezekiel penned his book "chapters and verses were not yet invented." So one can feel safe if he looked at chapters 37 (the dry bones), 38 and 39 (Gog and MaGog), 40, 41, 42 (the 3rd Temple) and 43, 44, 45, 46, 47 and 48 (the Glory of...
  18. Trekson

    False Teachers claim the Gog and Magog war is close

    Hi Rocky, The whole millennium and after can also be within the scope of "the latter days". Hi Retro, I agree with your great supper similarity which is why I believe it's post Armageddon, however, Cp. 38 has nothing in it that can be specifically stated as occurring-pre-mill. You theory of...
  19. Trekson

    False Teachers claim the Gog and Magog war is close

    Now Retro, as smart as you are, you should know better than that. The prophets go back and forth in time all the time. This is called telescoping prophecy where the prophets see the mountain tops of events but not the valley of time between them, nor do they see which events come first and which...
  20. Trekson

    The Judgment Seat of Christ –NC

    Hi John, I believe what you consider the "third" resurrection (vs. 13) is just telling where those of the second resurrection (vs. 12) come from. Your words: "There is no judgment mentioned. The judgment occurs everyday of our human lives." There may not be a judgment mentioned in that...