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We are also told Jesus is a lamb and a lion, and yet I don't see you insisting upon a literal interpretation for that. It is quite possible for the two witnesses to be the Church. Prophets were 'truth tellers' a good portion of the time, sometimes even more often than 'foretellers'. Are the two...

The first age is certainly an interesting topic of discussion. But, I'm not sure it actually impinges on this topic in any meaningful way. What is done, is done, and clearly there is no going back and changing it. The conversation is about what is future and what the bible says about it. I think...

Man, I don't need to prove a sweet, blessed thing to you. If I have the Holy Spirit that is, quite obviously, between my Lord and I. And also, quite obviously, it will be me paying the consequences one way or the other come judgement day. And while I often get frustrated by the pace of my walk...

I'm sorry....I'm not sure I follow your point with these particular verses....

Ah...nothing? How about scripture? As for the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches. -Revelation 1:20 We are TOLD the lampstands ARE the...

Can the Church not be witnessing upon the earth under intense persecution and then be taken up at the Last trumpet? Is that not what the Church is waiting and longing for as she IS persecuted? Even now in some places? Should that longing not grow as the extent of the persecution speads globally...

And what age might that be? The one before sin entered the world? Because, if you look at the verses that speak of 'this age', we can see it covers an age of sin, of Satan 'ruling' over it, of material rewards, of false philosphy and wisdom of man, of marriage. And these things have been present...

I'm not sure we need a lot of speculation on the subject, considering, as the OP mentioned, Revelation gives us the biggest 'clue' as to what the term 'witness' means. Especially when we read through the letters to the churches and find that there are only 2 churches that are found to be...

Yeah...I'd have to disagree with you here. Probably because I don't see scripture as teaching a Millennial period to come...period. Consistently scripture talks about two ages...'this age' and 'the age to come'. Biblical Texts Which Speak of “This Age” Matthew 12:32 - There is no forgiveness...

I think that's obvious, although I think how your definition and mine on "how we play a part" in "coming into contact with the blood of Jesus" will be different. The trouble is, of course, that sometimes we can happily hold a handful of things like those you've named above; belief, faith...

I think we must try and start shortening our posts, as we're having some blowout, but, we'll see how we go, as we are covering some extremely important content. Acts 2 is an interesting text and we can speculate a bit on why baptism is mentioned before 'forgiveness of sins and reception of the...

No, I have a habit of stopping when I've proved my point. But if you like, I could just upload an entire version of the bible, would that do? I suppose you could read it all, it does prove my point for me. And, for the life of me, I can't figure out why you'd want to continue posting on anyway...

Well, even if we count Mark 16 as to be counted as canon, you will still note that 'baptism' comes AFTER 'believe' in the sentence structure. So even there...no...baptism does NOT, in any way, shape or form, come BEFORE, in Christ's teachings, before 'believing'. And you will also note that the...

I'd like to think I do. I most certainly enjoy reading and growing in understanding of God's word. However, as I do this I find it is most important to make sure that the passages I read and the conclusions I come to are from scripture alone and not assumptions. You believe what I 'care about'...

I feel like I have posted SO MANY verses that support my position.... How about this...can YOU provide any scriptures that state obedience must come BEFORE salvation? That salvation will only be granted once a person does certain things. Perhaps some verses specifying which things need to be...

Hmmm. Fair enough. I would probably put myself in the category of saying that there ARE gifts of the Spirit. But like you I don't think a person should or could claim to be saved ONLY by displaying 'gifts' of the spirit. One can hardly know 'which spirits' gifts they might be displaying, can...

Well, just hold up a second now. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. In other words, its all very well and good for you to not trust me, but who's to say we can trust you? You say that quoting scripture means we're prophets? Also all well and good, but as we have daily proof here...

Not true. The whole passage is speaking about the glorification of both the children of God and the earth as well. This is a major promise of God's to us, a longing of the soul that scripture teaches is normal. Romans 8:18 compares the sufferings of this time unworthy to be compared to what is...

I think perhaps, while your conclusions are ultimately good, you are, in fact, leading the conversation in a somewhat faulty way in order to reach a foregone conclusion. Let me explain: Are our sins removed from us once we are saved? Yes, they are. That is the point of substitutionary atonement...

I understand you are trying to stress the importance of not just sitting on your butt with a simple 'assent' that Jesus is, perhaps, who he said he was. After all, we all know that even the demons 'believe'. However you are teetering, and I believe crossing into, that place where initial...