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*sigh* Lobster envy. Enjoy on behalf of those who live far away from the bountiful ocean...

Oh, I don't know, I'm enjoying myself (ourselves) enormously. Sometimes, there's not enough levity on the forum...I'd say, keep it up!

Well...I may never recover...but how could we miss seeing it??!!

Do you remember the verse that said we were predestined 'before the foundation of the world?' I would submit that that was the first move; one done by the Creator long before we existed and could DO anything. You might also take note as you go through scripture, of the work and role of the Holy...

So...essentially you're advocating works? Not an obedience that grows from salvation, but a salvation that comes from works (ie; obedience). But what was the point of the law? And why was it needful for Christ to make it obsolete? Two reasons: one - man is incapable of keeping laws perfectly...

We only deem Americans ignorant of Australia if they think Kangaroo's jump down the main street of Sydney. Although, now that I think of it, I think not that long ago we actually had one jump across the Sydney Harbour Bridge...so, what do I know? I think, considering all our pant options, that...

I'm not above bringing my own opinion to the table. Sadly it probably happens more than I wish it to. But I do want my views line up with his word above and beyond anything else. The reason for this? I've been wrong before, and the journey of learning and growing to the truth was precious and...

:rolleyes: Perhaps you should purchase a good dictionary...? Or just peruse one before starting a thread with claims and phrases in it that are directly misleading? Because OF COURSE we can prove things from scripture. That is the only way to, without doubt, prove things and claims about God...

:D Well...we're about an hour away from a smallish river...probably about the only thing you'd find in it would be catfish. Not sure catfish pants would look, or smell, very good. No...my mind went unfortunately to the livestock we mostly find where we are; sheep. I'm not sure HOW you'd make...

Well, what else can we do, but stand for what we ernestly believe the word of God teaches? I don't claim to be right on everything, maybe not even on most things. But I do feel scripture calls us to come to an understanding of what we read within it and then to stand fast on it and for it. I am...

Edible pants. That sounds like something a good, thrifty Christian woman should think of, waste not, want not, and all that! Wear em' then eat 'em! Sadly, I live too far away from anything resembling water to consider lobster pants. And anything even slightly comparable seems a bit horrific...

I solemly vow never to grow a beard...I gladly leave that up to man. Pants, however, are the best thing since sliced bread. They're not getting those back. I embrace my freedom in Christ in this regard!

I fail to see your point, I'm sorry. Are you saying that just because our faith is, in itself, a gift from God, that we do not also play a part in acknowledging Christ as the Son of God come in flesh? Because, clearly we do. John tells us that anyone who denies that is in fact antichrist. So...

You will note that I didn't say faith was "unprovable", I said Christianity was based upon faith, which was not physical. It was your OP, if you recall, which placed the requirement of physical proof upon a text before it could be believed. See my answer above. Perhaps apply your response here...

Hmm, resisting the temptation to pontificate. Its getting late, which means my urge to pontificate is at its highest. I'll do my best. I think perhaps we overlook the most obvious of explanations here. Just as God is God of all the world, not just of the Christians who believe in him, so Christ...

This is, indeed, a weighty topic, and I by no means claim a familiarity with it that could see me argue the case more eloquantly than many scholars already have. However, since the topic has arisen, I suppose I must do my level best to defend what I see as the biblical stance on the matter. You...

This. 'what you are seeing is the death of evil'. I think we don't often enough acknowledge this. It's probably because we live within this world, and because we do love even those who are perishing and so it hurts a bit too much. But; everything that currently breaks our hearts and threatens...

Misinterpreted how? If I may ask...?

I honestly couldn't say..

I'm sorry, but this strikes me as a MOST ridiculous post. "It can't be proven physically". Man, you just described the Christian faith. Or, at least 90% of it. "Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen" (Heb 11:1). Faith is the founding principle of the...