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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Which one is spiritual and which one physical?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If your asking when we get our new bodies it’s when we leave this world. 2Co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes the body we have now will die and we will die in our sins along with it if we haven’t accepted Christ. If we accept Christ and our soul has been resurrected from death to eternal life then we get the heavenly body to experience heaven.
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    How to Effectively Study and Interpret of the Bible

    I know what you mean. I listen to a few preachers (very few and infrequent) but I rely totally on the Bible to learn things.
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    Amigo's Question and Answer Thread

    The Old Testament saints including John the Baptist couldn’t be the bride of Christ because Christ had not yet paid for their sins. In the Old Testament the body of Christ was called the tabernacle of David. The tabernacle was the body and David represents Christ.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    They went to everlasting shame and contempt whatever that might be I don’t know.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes the body we have now is corruptible that’s what Paul is saying. It (the soul) is sown into these corruptible bodies. We aren’t the body, the body is just a container that our soul slips into to experience this life. The body doesn’t need a new body it’s the soul that has to be raised up...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Some physical bodies were raised at that time but all souls were resurrected, some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt. The Bible tells us exactly who those were that rose bodily and why they were raised, they were raised to judge Israel. Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is sown a natural body? What is the “it”? Replace it with the natural body and you get “The natural body is sown a natural body”. This isn’t complicated at all.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Jhn 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, Jhn 5:29 And shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes that’s what Daniel 12:2 says.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You realize that the NIV translator added the word body into that verse where it says “the BODY that is sown”. The Greek word is ambiguous. “Probably strengthened from G4685 (through the idea of extending); to scatter, that is, sow (literally or figuratively): - sow (-er), receive seed.”
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It happened at the resurrection of Christ which is what Daniel 12:2 is trying to tell us. That’s why Daniel says many but not all, he’s pointing us to the cross which is when the souls of everyone’s sins were forgiven and all that were dead in Christ were given eternal life and all that will...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The seed is the LIVING SOUL that is placed into the earthly body. The seed gets the new body in the resurrection. The resurrection is of the soul not dead earthly bodies.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So what your saying is that God gives the seed (which you say is the physical body) a body. What body does the physical body get? Hopefully this is plain as day that what you’re saying is completely impossible.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You quoted this - 1 Cor 15:37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. What is the seed that God gives a body to? Just a simple...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is the seed that gets put into the terrestrial body? Simple question, what does the seed represent?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No offense taken.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I love you brother I’m not hurling insults I’m trying to help you see.