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  1. prism

    The Age of God’s Grace

    Same salvation and same gospel? Will the Promises be the same? Will the present Church inherit the Land when the Lord returns? Will we be sitting on the twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel/or be judged by the twelve? (mt 19:28) etc. Did not Jesus and the Apostles walk like...
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    Who is least in the kingdom of heaven

    Let's try this again. For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I...
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    The Age of God’s Grace

    Yes God has leveled the playing field as revealed in Romans (Paul again), but will there not come a future time when God again focuses on rescuing His people the Jews? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that...
  4. prism

    The Age of God’s Grace

    So you are saying that God changes the playing field and agree with Richard? :)
  5. prism

    The Idea of Two Gospels

    I thought we were in Debate forum not Agape forum, although I agree we are to speak the truth in love. But how can we speak 'the truth' unless we are attempting to discern and determine what is right and wrong? You made multiple dogmatic 'declarations' in your post; are they right? Are they...
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    The Idea of Two Gospels

    Prentis, my challenge remains. The word 'reconcile' (katalasso) is used four times in the NT and NEVER in the present or future tense.God has 'reconciled' the world unto himself through Christ. Only Paul uses/reveals this word as it is used. 'Saved' is a much broader term and the two should...
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    The Idea of Two Gospels

    I find this a typical technique in responding. One person makes a point backing it up with Scripture (God's Revelation), the response comes back sounding 'reasonable' but without Scriptural backing.. Do we still hold to Sola Scriptura or does human reason now take a seat of authority next to or...
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    The Idea of Two Gospels

    "Only Paul had revelation of the work of Christ." ...and it's relation to believers (both Jew and Gentile) in this Church age. "Rather God works reconciliation, and makes peace between men and himself. To do this, he has sent his son, and by the new life he has allowed us to share through...
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    The Idea of Two Gospels

    Paul's point is not that it is the same Gospel, but that man is justified by believing God's promise (whatever it might be) not by deeds of the law.
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    The Idea of Two Gospels

    Actually there are as many gospels as there are favorable promises. 'Gospel' means good news. The good news to Abraham was'... And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he...
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    Does Paul tell is in Romans chapter 7 that we will always sin while in this flesh nature?

    Sinless perfection? Let's make sure no one is moving any goal posts...loving God with all of our heart, with all of our mind, with all of our soul, with all of our strength-- 100% of the time!! And here comes the hard part...loving our neighbor as ourselves! . Under these rules I plead guilty...
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    Does Paul tell is in Romans chapter 7 that we will always sin while in this flesh nature?

    As long as we are living according to the flesh (living in our own strength) it means we are not hearing Scripture's admonitions about the futility of man's efforts, whether it comes from Peter's declaration 'Lord, others may deny you but I will never', or Gideon's over bloated army stripped...
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    Does Paul tell is in Romans chapter 7 that we will always sin while in this flesh nature?

    The point of Romans 7 is telling us that we have died to the law as a way of LIFE see especially vs.4. Rom 7 is essentially showing the futility, due to the weakness of the flesh,to live by the law even as a Christian. In Christ we died to the law (Rom.7); we died to sin (Rom. 6). With...
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    Works vs. Good works

    There is no real difference between Paul's and James' explanation of faith and works. Paul is speaking against works as a means of justification...a non starter. James is speaking from a viewpoint as works being evidence (a.k.a. fruit of our salvation). Remember Jesus speaking of a good tree...
  15. prism

    Positive thinking and Faith

    Prentis, It seems you are on the edge of turning 'our faith' into a work of our own. Specifically, we are not saved or kept by our faith. Saving faith abandons all hope in oneself (including one's faith) and places full hope in Christ Jesus and His Righteousness. Technically it is not...
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    Positive thinking and Faith

    But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. (1Co 12:18) What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized...
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    Positive thinking and Faith

    I abide in the fact that I already have been placed into Christ. My having been placed into Christ is my salvation...my abiding in that fact is part of the fruit of the Spirit and is a secondary instrumental means of further fruit...including obedience. So I obey God not in order to attain hope...
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    Obedience to God:

    An often overlooked point... Hebrews 8;13 "When He said, "A new covenant" He has made the first obsolete, but whatever is obsolete is growing old and is ready to disappear." Hebrews 10:9 "Behold, I have come to do your will, He comes to take away the first, to establish the second." The...
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    Things that were hidden in God

    Perhaps you should reread Acts 15 along with Gal. 2 and ask why was there a different understanding of the early Jewish believers regarding Gentile inclusion which took Paul's clarification. Always grace yes. Halfway through the NT? Maybe 9 chapters or so into Acts we find Paul beginning...
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    Things that were hidden in God

    Those that continue to buck against the uniqueness of Paul's Gospel will forever struggle trying to reconcile the Kingdom teachings directed to the Jews in the Gospel accounts on the one hand and Paul's Epistles on the other.