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  1. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I am an atheist. I believe that God does not exist. But I also believe that God is logically necessary (i.e. not sociologically or psychologically). If you want further details please see my book titled "The Reverent Atheist" by David S. Moore, available in paperback on Amazon. Unlike most of...
  2. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    There have been instances in which amputees have reported still being able to "feel" with their missing limbs. All sensation to which the brain can react is subject to the brain's internal processing. And that all has at least some dependence on state of mind.
  3. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    You: No. This is a Non-Christian forum. There are "Christians Only" forums elsewhere on this website, but this particular forum is for Non-Christians. You: I did start the following separate thread on the topic of contradictions in the Bible: Contradictions Did you see that? But I've...
  4. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I answered that question in my previous response #961, which you apparently didn't bother to read. I gave you my interpretation of mass extinctions in that response, so I shouldn't need to restate it here. But here it is anyway: Why would an intelligent designer create life, only to destroy it...
  5. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    All you have to do is answer my question: What is your interpretation of the mass extinction events?
  6. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    The video you sent was titled "Proof Darwin Was Wrong." That's a totally in-your-face claim that EVERYTHING about evolution is false. In my posting #953 I listed 6 steps in the reasoning behind evolution-- items (a) through (f). The MOST you have actually been able to demonstrate in all of your...
  7. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    You: In my previous posting (#953) I said the following: You: Okay, I have no idea what you mean by "embracing LONG TIME as an article of faith." Do you mean that the 3.5 billion year timeline of life on earth as developed by science is invalid? Or that evidence obtained in the last few...
  8. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I watched the video. It didn't address any of the points I made in my previous posting (#948). The key points of that posting were that: a) The actual mechanisms of genetic change have been observed. b) The acquisition of a new biological trait via natural processes has been observed. The...
  9. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    @Wrangler said: I have to address this one. The reason why no one has seen an animal of one species giving birth to one of a different species is simple. Current estimates are that it would take half a million to a million years for one species to evolve into another through natural processes...
  10. the.reverent.atheist

    Contradictions

    Welcome to the first of a series of threads that I intend to begin on various topics related to the Bible. My intended audience is the Non-Christian subscribers to this Non-Christian forum. Christians, of course, are welcome to respond to any or all postings on this thread, but Non-Christians...
  11. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    In your posting #928 you said I need to use genus and differentia in analyzing things like thoughts and ideas: So in my posting #932 I provided explicit examples of how I would do that with both love and dreams. I could do something similar with the number pi or anything else you might want to...
  12. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I certainly have no problem with the idea that a theist could ascribe to God the ability to create new forms of life via the mechanisms of evolution. I'm not attempting to dissuade anyone from believing in the reality of a deity. Non-Christian followers of this forum should note that we have on...
  13. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Some thoughts are directly relatable to a person's sense perceptions and some are not. The state of present day technology is such that the association of sense perceptions to thoughts can, in some cases, be measured with physical instruments. So if you wish to distinguish a category of thoughts...
  14. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I'm in the camp of Alfred North Whitehead who is known for having opposed all "bifurcations" of reality. He was reacting against the Cartesian dichotomy between that which is physical and that which is mental. In Whitehead's view all mental and physical "things" are intertwined. A chair, for...
  15. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Wonderful questions! I'll take them one at a time. 0. If god didn't create absolutely everything, does that necessarily mean that he/she is not omnipotent? That is such an interesting question. In the case of the version of the creation story as narrated in the NSRVue, we're only told about...
  16. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Would you say that a person can experience emotions-- like love? It's not something physical like a rock. I think that to say that love is something that people are able to experience is a perfectly natural usage. Same goes for dreams. Most people would be perfectly comfortable with the notion...
  17. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Biological traits are propagated via Deoxyriboneucleic Acid. That's a molecule. Molecules are comprised of atoms. The behavior of atoms is described by physics. So yes, biology and physics are necessarily intertwined. If you don't agree with that then I'm afraid I will never be able to speak the...
  18. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    It’s time for me to wrap up my participation in this thread. But first an FYI. This is a NON-Christian forum for NON-Christians. Christians are welcome to participate, but the NON-Christian subscribers of this forum have no obligation to reply to their questions or concerns. Several of the...
  19. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Excellent question. Einstein once said "The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible." If you wish to take that as a point of departure for a belief in God, I certainly have no objection. I'm not trying to convert anyone on this forum to atheism.
  20. the.reverent.atheist

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Well actually the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle is based on the principles of relativity. Bohr noted that Heisenberg had actually used Einstein's own theory in his derivations!