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Lol, which means you can stop being saved, by ceasing to have faith.

So you prefer tyranny to liberty? Explains a lot.

Is someone worshipping the statue? If not, what is this thread for?

I get banned from CF monthly, lol. They don't like blunt people.

If there are steps needed to ensure salvation, how can it be secure? That's conditional salvation.

Which implys you can fail and fall away. Contradiction... can't both be true.

I agree. The key word is believer. Not ex believer.

The question is whether you think OSAS is a necessary belief for salvation?

I believe those laws were given for health. Remember they didn't have refrigerators. Meat can be preserved in other ways, but too much blood causes bacteria to bring rot more quickly. In a dry climate, you can allow the carcass to hang in the shade longer than you would expect, because the...

Not possible...so use common sense. Paul isn't commanding the impossible.

I guess that was a yes? Lol, what is saving you, Jesus or your theology?

So what exactly are you trying to say? That only those who accept your exact theology are saved?

"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons," "Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. ". "And then...

Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

But one can cease being a sheep.

Jesus always existed, so how can anyone literally be his mother?

That verse shows the opposite.

Oh, I'm quite aware. In fact it's the only way OSAS makes sense because in that system, freewill is absent and grace is irresistible. But the whole system is flawed.

Oh you are calvinist? Nevermind then I know better than to try and talk sense into those invested in that closed system.

And what happens if he stops believing?