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  1. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    We were discussing BOTH of those items – separately.. YOUR responded was against praying TO the saints in Heaven - when I was discussing the Jewish Mourner’s Kaddish, which is a prayer FOR the dead. If I addressed them separately – them respond to them separately . . . When you say that they...
  2. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Funny – we were talking about the Mourner’s Kaddish – Jewish prayer FOR the dead. I addressed intercessory prayer separately . . . First of all – NOBODY in the Body of Christ id “dead”. Mark 12:27 - "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living" The Transfiguration should tell you that...
  3. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    No – Protestants just chose to follow the “authority” of a false prophet who proclaimed a false “Christ“ when he deleted 7 Books. Had it not been for the council of their contemporaries - men like Philip Melanchton – Luther and Calvin wanted to remove Books from the NT as well. Hebrews, James...
  4. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    It’s not ME who said it. This is the Word of God warning that even those who are born again (Epignosis) can lose their security by their OWN doping Salvation isn’t something that God “takes away”. WE, however, can throw it away. And there is the difference between YOUR view of salvation and...
  5. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    As I have AMPLY shown . . . Once again – the Church didn’t “add” to Scripture. It included ALL of the Books that Jesus and the Apostles study from and referenced about 150 times in the NT, as I already explained to you. And there is nothing in these Books that is heterodox. Praying for the...
  6. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    According to the Letter to the Smyrnaeans by 1st century Bishop, Ignatius of Antioch – the 1st century Chu8irch DID resemble the Catholic Church of today . . . Ignatius of Antioch “Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as...
  7. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    There was ONE Church – the WHOLE Church (Acts 9:311). That’s where we get the word “Catholic”. There was ONE Church in MANY locations (Ephesus, Rome, Corinth, etc). Furthermore -= -the Didache, which was once considered to be Scripture itself, does NOT contain a list of the Books of Scripture...
  8. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    WRONG. As I warned you before – you cannot get past Epignosis (Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27). These verses say that you can gave a full, experiential and relational knowledge with Christ – much like a spouse – and LOSE it. He IS faithful. He DOES keep His promises – IF we cooperate. He will NOT...
  9. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Go back and check the thread yourself . . .
  10. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    WRONG. There was NO Canon of Scripture (Bible) until it was compiled and declared by the 300 year-old Church. It was the Church, led by the Holy Spirit who decided which Books belonged in the Canon – and which Books did NOT. Prior to this – there were MANY individual canons (lists) – but NONE...
  11. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    As I have repeatedly show you – that’s NOT what the Bible says in context. (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet...
  12. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Correction: The Bible came out of the Church – NOT the other way atound. There was a Church for 300 years before the the Canon of Scrioture was declared. And I never said there was . . . Church teaching didn’t end with the original Apostles. If that were the case – there would be no Canon of...
  13. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Hardly . . . "Hijacked"?? My firstpoat on this thread was to clear u an anti-Catholic faksehood. I don't "hijack" threafs. I simply respond and correct when I see lies bing posted . . .
  14. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And the teachings of the Apostles aare the teachings of the Church.
  15. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Continued . . . I thought we were . . . If the shoe fits . . . Why else would you claim that I couldm't present ANY Biblical evidence? You can disagree with my evidence – but to say that I didn’t provide any is dishonest. Okay – so you disagree. You cannot say, however, that I didn’t or...
  16. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Correct – He doesn’t take away our gift.. But, He allows us to accept it - or reject it. Ummmmm, the same disciples who were the first leaders of the Church. First of all – The Council of Nicaea did NOT decide the Canon of Scripture. It dealt largely with the Arian heresy. Secondly, you are...
  17. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Who’s “we”? The Church’s original doctrines were discarded and/or perverted some 1500 years later during the Protestant rebellion
  18. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    That claim is based on 2Thess 3.14, which YOU posted. Go back 1 chapter earlier to 2 Thess. 2:15 and read what Paul says about the Church’s teachings: 2 Thess 2:15 "Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from US." The “US” he is...
  19. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Then, instead of little hit-and-run remarks like that - prove me wrong . . .
  20. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And we are told over and over. “…provided you remain in His Kindness” “…he who endures” “…but he who stands firm to the end” "If you hold to my teaching…” “…unless you remain in me” “…if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast” Tell that to all of the apostate Christians. You...