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I have addressed Hebrews 2:8 with you multiple times, so why are you lying about this? How do you think you are proving anything here as it relates to Premill? There are still things (people, kingdoms, governments) that don't yet exist that are not yet under Him and death has not yet been...

Amen, Jeff. Those scriptures are very clear and straightfoward and cannot possibly be reconciled with Premill. Which is why we don't see any of them even trying to do so. It can't be done. If they actually interpreted those scriptures as literally as they interpret Revelation 20 then they would...

Do you not listen? I based my doctrine on what I believe to be clear, straightforward scriptures that I then use to interpret more difficult scriptures. Why are you avoiding addressing anything I said in my original posts? For example, scripture explicitly teaches that Jesus began to reign after...

Yet, you are completely incapable of refuting even one of the points I made in the second post where I showed clear, straightforward scriptures that my Amill doctrine is based on. At least, I assume that is the case since you are not even attempting to do so.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. In our case, we have natural sinful desires that we can't possibly overcome. Scripture is clear that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. If Jesus had natural sinful desires in the same way we do, He surely would have sinned...

Great job of not addressing anything I said in my original posts. You know you can't refute anything I said in those posts, so I'm not surprised that you didn't even try. But, don't feel too bad. No other Premill is really trying to do so, either, so you're not alone in that.

Not really sure what your point is here. I didn't say He wasn't tempted, I said He didn't have natural sinful desires like we do. Do you agree with that or not? Obviously, no one else has ever even come close to never sinning like Jesus did, so it would be ridiculous for anyone to claim that He...

Paul taught the truth in scripture without any mistakes and he followed Christ and His teachings as well as any Christian ever has. His serious mistakes were made before he became a Christian. He is a great example to follow because he was bold in his faith, he had a close personal relationship...

It does say that and Peter taught the same thing here... 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be...

You first said Noah's flood does not qualify as tribulation, but then you talked about the days leading up to the flood which is not the same thing as the flood itself. Who is saying that the days leading up to the flood when people are eating and drinking and getting married qualifies as...

Are you being serious here? This is like denying that God's wrath can be called tribulation. But, it can. Why do you deny things that are clearly true? The following verses clearly use the word tribulation to describe God's wrath. Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that...

How about you back that opinion up by addressing what I said in my post?

@marks Do you have any thoughts on what I said here? I'd love to know how you reconcile 2 Peter 3:10-12 and 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 with your Premil doctrine. If you interpret them literally and straightforwardly as I do, then I don't see any way to reconcile them with Premil. But, feel free to...

Did you not read the second post in this thread. I clearly explained what I believe and why there using clear, straightforward scripture. Let me know if there's anything I wrote in that post that you don't understand and I'll try to clarify that. LOL. If I don't want to do that? I've already...

You're not looking at the context. Peter also taught that heaven and earth will pass away when Jesus returns, so what Jesus said in Matthew 24:35-39 lines up perfectly with what Peter said here: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens...

This discussion is over. You clearly have no interest in addressing what I said in the original posts and I'm looking for someone who is willing to do that. That person is clearly not you. You are clearly afraid to even attempt to show how your interpretation of Revelation 20 can be reconciled...

LOL. Here you are again trying to tell me how to go about proving my doctrine. If you want to know how I interpret Revelation 20 and why then just read the second post in this thread. Let me know if you have any questions. You want me to interpret the passage in isolation from the rest of...

The context of what He said is in relation to His second coming and the fact that no one knows the day or hour. He was saying that no one knows the day or hour of His coming when heaven and earth pass away and all unbelievers are killed like all unbelievers were killed by the flood in Noah's...

If you continued to not address anything I actually said in the original posts you would be right about that, but you ended up addressing a few of them, so we can talk about those and how to reconcile them with what is written in Revelation 20. I've already done that and you can read that in the...

I find it amusing that until I asked you several times, you didn't bother addressing one single passage that I brought up in the original posts. Our approaches to interpreting scripture are different and I don't need to interpret it the way you do. I made it clear that I establish my doctrine...