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  1. Charlie24

    Did Jesus have a limitation to the Holy Spirit before being Baptized?

    Do you not know that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, born of the Spirit of God (the Holy Spirit) and not by fallen man as we are? He knew no sin in thought or deed, He had no need to be saved or to be baptized in water by man to confess His faith. His baptism was for the benefit of man! It...
  2. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    I would say this quote from scripture is very much misleading! Don't know what version you're using but my KJV says "and whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Rev. 22:17. It does not say "the one who wants it receive the gift of life-giving water." This is leading one to...
  3. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    The confession of Christ at water baptism is seen by God and much respected. But only a handful of people will witness that confession. The confession Christ spoke of before God is a life of serving Christ that effects everyone you meet in life.
  4. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    I would say that we agree! As far as Peter is concerned, if you didn't follow through with water baptism, you were not saved. That's just how the Apostles felt about it. It was put up or shut up with them. They were very serious about it. But it was just proof of the inward salvation they were...
  5. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    More of your commentary! Do you believe that water baptism is necessary for salvation along with repenting and faith in Christ or not?
  6. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    You believe that faith in Christ is not enough, you believe water baptism must be added to the Cross in order to be saved. I say that is heresy, and will not be accepted by the Father! It's nothing less than a slap in the face! And then you try to tell me that God made an exception to His laws...
  7. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Show me how these verses nullify what happened in Acts 10!
  8. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Show me where water baptism has the power to save in scripture! It's not there my friend! Believing in water baptism to save is heresy! It is resorting to law, it's a manmade law.
  9. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    What about the topic of this thread? Is water baptism mandatory for salvation? Answer me that, and let's settle this once and for all!
  10. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    My friend, I haven't twisted anything. The blood of Christ does not need and will not accept anything else by faith for salvation. In fact, water baptism is a work performed by another man in ceremony. Paul plainly said if by works your salvation is no longer by grace. Romans 11:6
  11. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    What is this? What does this have to do with water baptism being mandatory for salvation? Your slipping and sliding doesn't work with me, jbf!!!
  12. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Sure, for one reading with watery eyes!
  13. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    The slip and slide, the one exception God made for man! LOL, what chapter and verse of the water cult bible is this found?
  14. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Anyone who believes in the blood of Christ plus anything else as being mandatory for salvation is living a dead faith. It's NOT ok to believe that the Blood of Christ needs water baptism to be saved!
  15. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    I don't care who you got it from, Acts 10 plainly shows that man is saved instantly by believing the Gospel and receives the indwelling Holy Spirit BEFORE he is water baptized.
  16. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    And here we have the famous slip and slide you throw out to Behold on a regular basis! Well, Charlie is having none of it! Acts 10 speaks for itself and is in deep controversy with your interpretation of Acts 2:38. You can slip and slide all you want but it's still there and you are the one who...
  17. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    "Because of" is the only translation that can possibly be taken from Acts 2:38, unless you think you can change Acts 10 to make it water cult theology as you have Acts 2:38. If you don't understand that "repent" means instant forgiveness of sins, you have already lost the ball game!
  18. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    What is the call of God JBF? Is it not the hearing of the Gospel as Paul taught? Does not God the Holy Spirit tug at the heart when the Gospel is heard? Those who accept that call are the called of God! You are mistaken my friend about Acts 2:38! "repent and be baptized 'because of' the...
  19. Charlie24

    Dead to the Law

    In the analogy that Paul gave we cannot be married to the Law and Christ, it's one or the other, the Old or the New. By faith in Christ we are in the New Covenant which makes us dead to the Law. Our focus can no longer be on keeping Law, but keeping faith in Christ. He did what we could not...
  20. Charlie24

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    You're not standing alone Brother, this water cult theology is ridiculous! Ephesians 1:13 plainly tells us we receive the Holy Spirit after we believe, not at or after water baptism. Acts 10:44-48 is proof we receive the Holy Spirit before water baptism. As far as the Blood being in the...