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  1. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Dead men have no faith. To be dead is to be dead, otherwise the Holy Spirit would not have to quicken us
  2. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    God shows mercy or justice. There is no injustice in that. Those who go to Heaven do not deserve Heaven, those who go to Hell deserve it. No one gets injustice. The lost don't care they're lost and the saved know they are wicked sinners who do not deserve Heaven.
  3. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Glad you asked. John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath eternal life; but he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him. Romans 9:22,23 - What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects...
  4. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Faith is a gift of God too. Ligonier Ministries
  5. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    "If all men have "free will" and yet without exception are under God's wrath, then it follows that "free will" leads them in only one direction - "ungodliness and unrighteousness" So where is the power of free will helping them to do good? If free will exists, it does not seem to be able to help...
  6. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    I am a Christian. Man has a sinful nature that is enemy against God. "For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will. That's why those who are still under the control of the their sinful nature can never please God." Romans 8:7,8. The mind of...
  7. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    It's not Calvinism, it's Biblical. You only choose God because He first convicted you. You didn't create the conviction in your own heart or raise yourself from the dead.
  8. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Ask a random person on the street that last time they felt the Holy Spirit convict them of their sin. Put a Bible on the table of where a group of people are sitting and watch them mock and get angry at its presence.
  9. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Before coming to Christ we were slaves to sin. Sin was our master and we were in spiritual bondage. No child of the devil naturally on their own will submit to Jesus. God is the One Who opens our heart.
  10. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    It always comes back to, "it has to mans choice, it has to be his doing" but do you ever congratulate yourself on this good choice you made? No, no believer does that. You should if it was by your own doing. Yet when you pray for God to save a person you don't say, "now don't mess with them...
  11. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Paul says himself that God ordained him from birth. Did John the Baptist choose to be a prophet? Did he choose to be filled with the Holy Spirit before birth?
  12. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    The Bible says it and teaches it. Calvin was just a teacher (that I don't always agree with). Arminian's have teachers that write on Scripture but yet no one accuse them of following a teacher. Election / Predestination is hated because people love self will and pride and want to feel in control...
  13. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Did Saul (Paul) choose to listen or was it because God ordained him from birth to be an Apostle?
  14. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    No one is forced. God is the One Who must open up our hearts and freely repent. Look at Lydia in Acts16:14
  15. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Man is evil and naturally does not seek God.
  16. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    I didn't interpret it, I quoted it.
  17. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Why would a child of the devil choose to submit to Christ
  18. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    No where in scripture does it say that God's purpose in predestination was a choice we would make. None of can even come to Jesus unless God draws us so that right there is clear. In Him we were chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of Him Who works out everything in conformity...
  19. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    There is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Romans 3:11,12. This includes you and I as well as all mankind.
  20. LC627

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    So you do believe in election and predestination then?