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Some do believe that this is a future event. I believe that as Jesus was the image of the invisible God,,,, Paul was the image of the resurrected Christ. A Man in the body. I see Christ walking in him in his letters, and the love he has for the brethren.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith...

Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: — Ephesians 4:13 This is the highest walk.

And don’t forget growth. Must grow into that perfect man Jesus Christ.

There also be seed for birth. If there be seed it remains.

I believe there is a certain sequence to it all. It seems there has to be belief, seed, birth, and then growth into a perfect Man, the man Jesus Christ!

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. — John 1:12-13 This implies belief comes first.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. — John 1:12-13

Okay, I was just curious of your view, that’s all.

So God chooses as Paul stated. When it pleased God.

Behold just replied the Holy Spirit is above with God?

It interprets itself.

Paul states the mother of them all is above. Are you saying the mother is above but her womb is below?

But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: — Galatians 1:15-16 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us...

Jesus suggested to Nicodemus that the new birth took place above ^^^^^^

I agree! Paul’s character was definitely being assaulted at Corinth, the letter revealed this. I believe there are still many Judaizers among us.

But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: — Galatians 1:15-16 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us...

I wasnt asking for you to defend your rebirth. What I’m asking is what is Paul in your opinion speaking of when he uses the phrase his mothers womb? He states that he didnt confer with flesh and blood. What does this mean to you?

What in your opinion are Jesus’s commandments?

But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: — Galatians 1:15-16 Is Paul speaking of when he was born from above/ born of God, or...