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Wouldn't God tell your parents if you were going to be Moses? That happened to both Mary, mother of Jesus, and John the Baptist's parents. I think it will be different this time. And think, John the Baptist had the spirit of Elijah, but he was still John the Baptist, and has been referred to...

Thanks John Z, you take Xian to court! ;) Anyway, I think the key word is struggle. Once the Holy Spirit is inside you, this- 14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I...

The penalty for sin is death. I don't see how you can demonstrate God's love in an evangelistic way without explaining why, how, and when this penalty is taken away in Christ. I don't see how you do that, either, without the law.

to Veteran- I can see how Revelation 11 demonstrates Christ's coming at the end of the 3 1/2 year period, but not how it discounts a 3 1/2 year descent.

NP ;)

Don't worry about arguing. When it gets personal, it usually gets off topic. We can all agree to disagree once we have found common ground. Once you establish what's common, you can then establish the uncommonality, or difference in opinion. None of that requires personal remarks. It's the...

I'm glad we're finding some common ground (Like all the people who just posted). Is there any more common ground? I'm still in the belief that someone can be born with any sinful tendency, such as the drive to commit homosexual sin (sex). There's a million more...ish, but that's the one we're...

Ya, I can't really disagree with that either. Keep it rolling you guys.

I'm saying obedience is greater than sacrifice. If God calls someone to dance they should dance; If God calls someone to sit, they should sit. It's about being authentic to what the Holy Spirit is leading you to do by not trying to please man more than pleasing God. Neither church was...

Why wouldn't the spirits of the OT faithful indwell us according to the End Times analogy? "Are the two witnesses finishing some aspect of previous prophets? most likely not." I agree but their ministry at least has to be prophetic of what's to come. "Like when the owner sits atop his...

I have come out of Babylon and no longer affiliate with any denomination. Most denominations try to define how the Holy Spirit works anyway, which kinda goes against how the Holy Spirit works... I think I posted somewhere, some years back, about the Dancers and Sitters in Christ, in reference...

I don't think you're wrong, per say, I just think I'm... more right. I don't think people will understand God's love until they understand His law. Which requires the spirit on both counts. No One Is Righteous 9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we...

Mine never grew back... which has to do, in part... with my point... *cough* (I hate thinking about that). The thing is, I believe that circumcision is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, that THAT is the point of salvation. "It is no longer me who lives but Christ who lives in me," but I can...

I guess I'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Sorry about that. I guess I can add that I agree with you after a point. I believe there is a wall that needs to be broken in the minds and hearts of those who haven't heard the gospel- by the law of God, without which we wouldn't have...

In Him usually has to do with fellowship. If you can be in him, you can go out of him, and it's not talking about salvation in this point. When He is in you, however, you're pretty much set in stone/writing whatever. You would have to blaspheme the Holy Spirit in order to damn yourself at...

I guess it's hard for someone to imagine a better life in Christ Jesus according to His love if they're in an environment when they're in danger of dying the day they give their lives to Christ. There has to be a better reason (more reasonable reason) than "God is loving" and "I'm going to be...

No, sorry again Xian, I think you're agreeing with me, at least on my first point. As to my post. "I don't think you should-have to bring up someone's specific sins during evangelizing." I guess I do tote discussing general sin though (At least in some form) because without the law, we don't...

Ya, it takes a while. I can't say I'm really used to it either. You kinda have to get used to stating why you agree and adding whatever additional info you think is important to clarify the agreement. It's a new topic of discussion on this board; agreement.

What are the implications of whether or not the verse implies an apostasy (Falling away?), verses a literal departure, or some mix of both? I'm asking because I'm curious, not implying my views here. But it could help to discuss it. Let's have at it and see what logical train each leads to.

It means I am not flesh but Spirit. That that is who I am. I have flesh, but I am a spirit inside myself, and I have been reborn in Christ and His Spirit. Ya, I see where you're going here. Nice work.