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  1. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Would Jesus send the angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth if they weren't changed? Here is the rapture of the 12 tribes across the earth which occurs at the last trump which is blown on the Feast of Trumpets. 1 Corinthians 15 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep...
  2. The Light

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    The beast was and is not and will come again. Sounds like a future event.
  3. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yeah, that's the election. Read Romans 11
  4. The Light

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    Symbolic???????????????????? Rapture of the Church???????????????? Why do those that get victory over beast sing the song of Moses????????????? Revelation 15 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and...
  5. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Your lack of understanding is only outweighed by your refusal to believe what is written. Don't be ignorant of this mystery. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to...
  6. The Light

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    Do they have the power to gather the elect from heaven and earth when the Lord sends them?
  7. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    What? Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly You are cross contaminating the fullness of the Gentiles with the times of the Gentiles. Not the same thing. The fullness of the Gentiles is complete at the rapture of the Gentile bride. Yes. Those of the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the...
  8. The Light

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    Here is the rapture that occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the tribulation of those days. The signs of the sun, moon and stars show that Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect...
  9. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    And yet the verses are talking about the people of Daniel and not all people. Oh, the old fly in the ointment.
  10. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I realize that you don't understand these things. If you did you would realize like I did that Jesus comes for the Church before the great tribulation. And then He comes at the 6th seal before wrath, after the man of sin is revealed. Sadly, you have no clue how close His coming is. Remember...
  11. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I believe Jesus comes at the 6th seal for the gathering from heaven and earth. All eyes see the coming of the Lord. Then the 7th seal is opened, and the wrath of God begins. Wrath will last one year. Of course not. I apply of all of scripture as it is all profitable. You apply only...
  12. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    See the great multitude in heaven after the 6th seal. And the marriage supper takes place in heaven. You just skip half the Bible. The 144,000 are 12,000 from 12 tribes. They are first fruits. First fruits are not the harvest, so you are in error. There are two raptures described all over the...
  13. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Jesus is revealed at the 6th seal and sends His angels to gather elect. That is when all eyes see the coming of the Lord. Then the 7th seal is opened, and the wrath of God begins. 1 Thes 4:14 regards the rapture of the Church. 1 Thes 5:3 regards the wrath of God These are different events...
  14. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The second coming occurs at the 6th seal. All eyes see the coming of the Lord. He sends His angels for a harvest. All return to heaven for the marriage supper. Then the armies of heaven come for Armageddon and then Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives. Additionally, 1 Thes 4 is the...
  15. The Light

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    The 6th seal is NOT shortly before Jesus coming down to earth. The 6th seal is Jesus coming for the gathering from heaven and earth. He remains in the clouds. There is a rapture at the 6th seal. That is why there is a great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7. They are going to heaven for the...
  16. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The sixth seal is the coming of Jesus for the gathering from heaven and earth. The 7th seal is the wrath of God. That silence in nonsense doesn't come close to flying.
  17. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Many means many. Many is not all. Additionally, the verses talk about the people of Daniel. That is the nail in the coffin. You are going to have to really make something up to get past that fact.
  18. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Really. Just pretend that the 7th seal wrath of God is 30 minutes of silence in heaven. If that nonsense works for you.....great.
  19. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I see some pretty strange doctrines.............such as the 7th seal wrath of God is 30 minutes of silence in heaven. Do you think the nations of the earth mourn because of 30 minutes of silence in heaven. Start with common sense if you cannot understand the Word of God. Does 30 minutes of...
  20. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    What's the big fear. Jesus returns at the 6th seal and then the 7th is opened and it's on..........Gods wrath. That is why there is a harvest at the 6th seal. Believers are not appointed to wrath.