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  1. The Light

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    2 Thes 1 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, Funny how many miss the FACT that Jesus is revealed at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. There is a reason the kings of the earth, rich...
  2. The Light

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    Some see. Some don't. There is a reason that some are watching and ready for His appearing and some are not watching. They don't think He comes until the end of wrath. Scripture says differently
  3. The Light

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    It appears that you are making things up. We won't even talk about the pretribulation rapture that you cannot see. How about this coming of the Lord for the 144,000 first fruits. Revelation 14 1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four...
  4. The Light

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    Major problem. The 6th seal is not the Day of the Lord. The day of the Lord happens towards the end of the 7th seal.
  5. The Light

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    Do people marry after the Church enters the ark? He obviously returns more than once. Certainly there are two raptures. The fig tree has two harvests. FACT First the fullness of the Gentiles, then 144,000 first fruits, then the second harvest. One coming the Lord Himself comes, one coming He...
  6. The Light

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    Of course, Revelation is a collection of visions. However, there is one thing we can be sure of. The 7 seals happen in order. The first 6 seals line up perfectly with what Jesus tells us in Matthew 24. The first four seal are the beginning of sorrows in Matthew 24. The fifth seal is the great...
  7. The Light

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    The last day of the age occurs at the 6th seal. Who on the earth do I say is getting married. And the blind tell me what they see.
  8. The Light

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    Christ will return at the 6th seal. All eyes will see the coming of the Lord. If you don't have simple deductive reasoning abilities, you may not be able to understand what happens in the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal. It's marked clearly in blue by the sings of the sun...
  9. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The last day of the age is the 6th seal. It is marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. There are two raptures. The fullness of the Gentiles is the first rapture. The twelve tribes across the earth are second rapture which occurs at the 6th seal.
  10. The Light

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    You probably need to study the Feasts of God which are a shadow of what is to come. The dead in Christ will rise before the great tribulation at the trump of God or voice of God. It will be like the days of Noah. The Lord Himself will come. 1 Thes 4 Those of the 12 tribes across the earth will...
  11. The Light

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    The dead in Christ will rise when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Think about this. MANY of them that sleep in the dust of the earth will be raised. Not all of them, many of them. This is the harvest that occurs at the 6th seal. You are confusing the judgement that occurs after the 7th...
  12. The Light

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    Absolutely not. 1 Thes 4 is the rapture of the Church which happens before the great tribulation. The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Then the 7th seal is opened and the one-year wrath of God begins. The last day of the age occurs...
  13. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I'm going to have to agree with you partially. It certainly appears to be avoidance. The reasoning however appears to be spot on.
  14. The Light

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    Certainly, this is what is commonly taught. Now let's get to the facts. The dead in Christ rise first in the spring. This is the barley harvest. The alive remain. When the Lord returns for the alive the remain at the end of summer He will bring the dead in Christ with Him. The end of summer...
  15. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I don't know if you are talking to me or rebuilder 454. If you are talking to me your conclusion would be in error as I know that the gathering is from both heaven and earth. It is the Church that is gathered from heaven and the 12 tribes across the earth that are gathered from the earth at the...
  16. The Light

    The "watch rapture view"

    You just proved my point. No, I don't. God does. The wrath of God is one year. Please provide a scripture that shows that Israel flees in the midst of the trumpets. I don't think you can provide one. Also, all of those 1260 days are not the wrath of God. The wrath of God lasts one-year.
  17. The Light

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    Cause..............effect.
  18. The Light

    The "watch rapture view"

    So what you are saying is that you do not understand what the stars falling from heaven is? Try the internet, I'm sure there are many that know.
  19. The Light

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    Don't be ignorant of this mystery. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. I don't expect you to understand this...
  20. The Light

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    And yet both with wise virgins and foolish virgins have oil. The Church will already be in heaven at this point. Those that are not in darkness will be of the 12 tribes. That day will not take they unaware as they will know He is coming for them at the last trump which is blown on the feast of...