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    Watch this

    Did you read your own link? It is far from definitive. It only speaks of theory and the many meanings it could have depending on who uses it. It does not appear that it is exclusively used by anyone, rather meaning something different to everyone. A couple of excerpts: WITH A CIRCLE This is...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't choose broccoli over Cheetos! :unsure: Now you've made it personal! Just kidding of course SL
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    Something my pastor said during service

    I agree that Alcoholics are gluttons. But gluttony in this thread has been defined pretty regularly as only having to do with food. This is the exception I am taking with it. I am pointing out that it is a poor analogy to equate drinking alcohol with eating food. We were made to eat food...
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    Defending the Trinity

    Purity, Does the question "Why callest thou me good?" equal "Do not call me good!"? I do not think so. I have always read that as Jesus equating himself with God. In other words, Jesus was acknowledging the man's discernment that He was God, the man knew Jesus was good and was asking Him...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    Please explain what is so "discussion ending" about that post? Quite frankly it is extremely disingenuous to keep equating gluttony with drunkenness. You don't need to look up scholars...you need to open Strong's. You guys just won't accept the arguments, it's not that they aren't there for...
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    A Christian Economy

    This is another very big topic which is itself very dynamic. It is very hard to get into this conversation without going all the way back to the beginning of the United States. There are many, many problems with the original post's conclusions, mostly because you simply can not make an economic...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    River, Wormwood, Aspen, anyone else, Did anyone read the link I provided or do any research on it themselves? It explained that it was alcoholic wine that was added to the water to purify it. The alcohol content of the wine purified the water but was a non-alcoholic product when finished and...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    Wormwood, You are most certainly right. Or rather, nothing will ever change your mind from thinking you are right. It is plausible. Unless you have the need to justify something, and then nothing will ever suffice and no honest conversation can ever be had. To suggest it is ridiculous that...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    River and Wormwood, I said I was finished with this thread since I had nothing more to add, since then I have spoken with my father about this situation and now have new information to add to the conversation. My father was standing there and I was relating to him how I just did not think it...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    River, I have addressed most of your post already in other posts that I have made, but you do bring up a very good point that I think needs to be addressed here. Your point on the fish and loaves is taken into consideration, and on the surface appears to thwart my opinion on the matter. Maybe...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    Gerry, You seem to be attributing a couple of arguments to me that I have not used. I have not brought the law into it, nor Judaism. Thank you for your admission that it would be doing harm to your children (as adults are supposed to protect them from harm), it is to an adult also. So would...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    KIngJ, IF, and I hope you notice how big of an if that is, Matthew 15:11 means what you guys are saying it does, then who is to say taking "just one" of any illicit drug is bad? By the way, many have used that verse to justify just about anything you can imagine, if it is one of the verses the...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    Hashe, Before I just assume I know what you are saying, could you please be more clear? I am currently assuming you are putting me in the place of those who were accusing Jesus of these things and somehow relating it to me doing the same thing to Christians who drink. Is my assumption correct...
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    Something my pastor said during service

    First, I would like to say that I am glad that so many have decided to join those of us who are "biblical literalists" and are so interested in what the bible has to say literally on Jesus making water into wine and one drink being sin. Is there a verse that says, "Take one drink of what you...
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    The good news of Gods kingdom

    Does God contradict Himself, or is it something we do not understand about what He said instead?
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    Something my pastor said during service

    I have been watching this thread with more than a little fascination. A couple of things have jumped out at me as very interesting. First, how quickly we are to "judge" the pastor in this situation, who, by the way, is not here to defend himself (assuming he would), all the while commenting on...
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    Bible without chapter/verse divisions

    Thanks Arnie! Your link will be put to good use! I will still try to get one to carry though.
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    Bible without chapter/verse divisions

    I meant a print bible, one to carry around with me. I would prefer a parallel. I am going to be speaking to a printer about it in the coming days. If I find anything out about their willingness to engage, I will let you know
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    The good news of Gods kingdom

    Kjw, You seem to have skipped my question. As foolish as it seems to be, it is very important, please answer it. We are not going to have the same old tired JW conversation. If you do not wish to engage in the conversation, please simply state that.
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    The good news of Gods kingdom

    Does God contradict Himself or is it rather something we do not understand of what God has said?