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Okay, I was a bit frustrated when I wrote that post. I try to keep myself away from keyboards when I am upset. Please remove all my insanely placed comments pretending to know what you were thinking and doing. I'm sorry. I am saying (by your own standard) that a biologist is not a...

Part of the problem is that you have to go to a pro evolution website after you google "debunk mathematical probability of evolution argument". I could and would argue live and\or in person with any of the people who "debunk" this line of thinking. To discuss it with you when your only argument...

Paul also kept a doctor with him nearly all the time. As hard as waiting for healing can be at times we have to know that God does not operate in a vacuum. I have waited for years for the Lord to have mercy on me and heal a back condition that I have. I pray continuously, others pray fervently...

Sigh....I......can't.....do......it....... Okay River, I am afraid you keep misusing probabilities, I am sure you are a very good biologist and I am not prepared to discuss the biology of it all in a detailed way with you. (shhhh....don't tell anyone I hated biology :angry: ) I could...

I agree God never contradicts...so when I see a contradiction, I know its the person stating it. Like making believe a voice is not an instrument. I agree also on one body, but people having views like yours is just as responsible for splitting it up as anyone. SL

I understand how you feel. I will hang onto and believe God's word with every ounce of my being until the day I die. I even believe what you are saying is true. I do not stop the fight...I switch methods. I gave her very plain, simple arguments that can not really be thwarted. She will not...

Ernest, I am trying to be as cordial as I can. It is good of you to hide behind your keyboard and condemn everyone and everything. You not only miss the very plain things you are saying that contradict, but more importantly...you miss the most important things God left for us to do...Love the...

Is it worth doing twitter? I do not understand the first thing about it and really do not want to waste my time if it is not worth it. Why do you twitter? Is it hard to use? My thoughts on it are that it must be the height of narcissism to assume everyone must care what I am doing right...

I am going to bow out of the conversation here. Thank you for the good conversation River, we just are not going to agree and that is okay. God is faithful enough to change one of our minds...I just hope you are ready for it to be you! :D just kidding....sort of :P SL

Ernest, You seem to get very upset. It may be me reading into it and not actually present at all, but that is the tone I read into it. Thank you for the examples you used. I will look into them and come to a reasonable conclusion. As I stated earlier, I have never heard this before so I will...

Ernest, Even if following commands saved us or kept us saved...as you know I do not believe this per our previous conversations...but in this case I will humor you. Let us assume that you are right on all your other doctrines...there is an enormous difference between being told directly to use...

Wow, I had no idea people had some of these ideas. Wow....no seriously....WOW! I have taken the time to read through most of these posts, mainly because when something comes along that I have never heard before, I want to try to take the time to understand the particular viewpoint I have never...

This is what I am talking about and the exact point I am trying to make. Math is absolute, the other sciences, although very interesting and unquestionably able to draw certain answers, are not absolute. The conclusions they come to have to always be questioned because we do not rightfully know...

How do I follow what Wormwood has just said....he pretty much hit the nail on the head pretty squarely. Let me just relate it from my life experience so that maybe some of the younger folks can avoid some of the same mistakes as those who came before them. I spent much of my younger years...

I find this to be an odd statement coming from you aspen. I read a lot of what you have to say and disagree with a lot of it, but I do have to give you credit for consistency of viewpoint, you rarely contradict your overall viewpoints of God\life. You focus a tremendous amount of effort on...

Laws of probability. Big, big subject. Basically what I am referring to (in a very general way) is the fact that given a set of known quantities (whatever they are) you can (that is also a very big can) figure with absolute certainty (no matter how many sheets of paper it takes) any given chance...

I do not think you are trying to "convert me" to evolution. I think you have treated everyone respectfully (for the most part [I do not count "giving back" what you are getting]). You may notice I "bolded" some of your statements because I think this is where the fundamental disagreement is...

So, for the record, the laws of probability is science we can ignore and the theories of evolution is science we can take to the bank?

No, I am taking the position that evolution=too great a statistical probability that it all came together, not that evolution=no creator. Further I am taking the position that it is a much greater statistical probability that design and purpose=creator. Design and purpose never=random I think...

This is presupposing again that there is randomness. Again it proves the point that it was all created and there is a design. You are right...the statistical probabilities of all that happening are almost as slim, actually not quite as slim, but no I won't bear that out for you. Again, coming...