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    Leaving creationism = leaving Christianity?

    oooh.....oooh river! I saw this and got super excited for you!!! You gotta do it! Seriously. https://www.googlesciencefair.com/en/?utm_source=hpp&utm_medium=desktop&utm_content=hppen&utm_campaign=GSF2014
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    River Okay, so, any reasonable thinking person not lacking in any level of common sense would understand by nature the statistical probabilities would be nearly incalculable. So lets just go through some of the idea of the math. First, we need to know how many species there are of everything...
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Okay, now I believe we are getting somewhere. I have been trying to figure out where you are coming from. Do you happen to believe in the Divine Flesh doctrines? There is flesh and there is spirit. I do not deny these verses, but they are in reference to our spiritual walk/world. We do live...
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    Discipleship forum - Your one thing?

    It is funny this has come up, been thinking a lot about this subject myself. As Arnie said, when Christ grabbed me...so many things were instantaneously changed (and never seem to resurface) and a few things were definitely diminished, but these are the things I struggle with as they seem to...
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    Leaving creationism = leaving Christianity?

    I have read somewhere that if you want to rob a strongman's house, you must first bind the strongman.
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    Leaving creationism = leaving Christianity?

    Hubris is truly something to behold.
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Ernest, Who is not either a Jew or a Gentile? SL
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    Okay, this is where you divert with a meaningless question and try to discredit what I am saying by theoretically discrediting my "knowledge". Ask to see my calculations....right....got it....you are the scientist...you need my help? Is this where I am supposed to allow you to divert and start...
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    1. Right, okay, let me be the one who helps you prove it wrong. Bombardier Beetle. Couldn't have happened any other way but created. Or at least the statistical probabilities are too far fetched. You see...all we have to do is find one item that defies the theory. Evolutionists have to make...
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    River, Sorry again. This is of secondary importance to me so I have not been paying as close attention to this thread. You seem to be more stuck in your ways than you claim most of us to be (maybe i am wrong about this). Is there any possibility that science is wrong? Is there any conceivable...
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    To get your understanding headed in the right direction we need to focus on this issue of "group vs individual" thing we are stuck on. Then we will move into the very real problems you face in Ephesians with your entire argument. Galatians and Romans also obviously, but Galatians and Romans will...
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Again Ernest, you seem to be misreading. 1. You are correct that Paul and James do not contradict. Imagine that....God is not a liar. But where the error is coming in is not in what type of works they are talking about. Notice how you had to go into speculation about what Paul was "essentially...
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    Do you believe in the seven day week? Sorry so long in response, had a bit of snow to deal with...in my business....that's a good thing
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Ernest, I am back after a very busy day at work and you have been on my thoughts and prayers quite a bit. (Yes, you have been living rent free in my head for a few hours :) ) I need to ask you a couple questions which will determine whether I continue this conversation or not. 1. Are you...
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    I agree with all of this except that any science is a fact, rather I believe it to be "fact" as we currently know things to be, but we have no idea what it is that we do not know that will be a "game changer" to said fact. This is not a big enough difference in what we are saying to argue about...
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    I have no issue with you placing works after salvation as a sign of salvation to men. This is the perspective James is talking about. It again is very plain. James is talking from man being able to tell you are saved. So from man's perspective Faith without works is indeed dead...I can...
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    Arguments against Theistic Evolution

    The assertion keeps being made that we read the account in Genesis as a science text book. I can not speak for KingJ, but I do not read Genesis as a science text book but rather a factual statement. I do not understand the assertion that we read it as a "science text book". Does this come from...
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    what was the truth they quit obeying from your perspective? Christ's gospel? And returned to the old testament. He is explaining that Christ's Gospel is by faith...not by works. So then we agree that Christ is sufficient...we don't come by the fulfilling of the law (because we do not frustrate...
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    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Ernest, you see what you want to see, you make the scriptures fit what your other doctrine is, not what they plainly say. Paul, again, is plainly laying out a case. No "higher" understanding needed. You seem to do this over and over. You ignore the plain sense in Romans and now again in...