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Who makes the choice? We do. However, I do not believe it works the way I always see the argument going, between the two sides we always see arguing about this subject. Can we agree on just one thing? God desires all to come to repentance? 2 Peter 3:9 Predestination is in the Bible. One can...

Quantrill Is correct, and I was not going to post, as I get myself in trouble with this topic quite a bit, however a couple more things need to be said to make this complete. (In my opinion) Science can be a good thing. Please keep in mind, however, that science is based in man's understanding...

This is too broad of a subject to really be able to have adequate space to delve into. There are too many assumptions made in the original post to be able to discuss it on a specific basis. 1. Should the Federal Government make any such law? I contend the Federal Government should stay out of...

If this was in response to me, I have no idea what the correlation is to what I said. If the point is: a firearm will do me no good in a spiritual fight...I agree wholeheartedly, and I think we all can agree on that point. I, however, also live in a physical world. God placed me here. I have...

It is a good question, and one to not be taken lightly in either direction. Should a Christian carry a weapon? Should a Christian use a weapon? 1. It is not a matter of how much faith you have. This is a tactic people use to make themselves appear better than you. You can certainly have faith...

I probably was not clear enough in my first post on this subject, therefore I will make a second attempt. I perceive great problems for the faith as this post is stated. The very real possibility exists that I am lacking understanding to the actual intent of the post. If sin "preexisted" in...

What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Why does He yet find fault with us? For who has resisted His will?

So are you also proud of your own humility? Do you find yourself impressed with your own modesty? Are you in the judgement seat of who is in the judgement seat? Or...maybe...just maybe...can two people discern two things in Christ two different ways with neither really needing to be chastised...

Wait, wait, wait...you got this all wrong. You are trying to make sense of things. God only works in secret and riddles and puzzles (and only His elect can figure it all out), He never makes any sense....what are you trying to do to the faith? Of course they were walking along and were speaking...

Be careful challenging the Synod of CB my friend. You will get your five point rebuttal soon. :unsure:

This has always been an extremely interesting topic to me. Both sides of the issue fascinate me. Have I ever spoken or sang in tongues? Nope. Will I ever? Only God knows if HE will have that need of me. (I believe I absolutely would if God needs it or desires it in my life for His glory)...

Does he suggest that over 100 runs into the year 2000? How does he suggest that works?

Steve, thanks for starting this thread and thanks for the information on where to learn more. This is the kind of thing I was hoping to find on these forums. I know nothing about this stuff but always find it extremely interesting. Often times it leads to a world of pondering as to how God...

Veteran, I am sorry, but I can not agree with you. Thank you for sharing your viewpoints (and we could discuss the bible of it all day). I will stick with what the Lord has given me for now. This is not to say that He will not change my mind someday, but I simply can not allow what I see as...

Veteran, I have indeed read 1 John 3:8. And I actually read verses around it also. I have also read Hebrews 2....and verses around it. I have read Matthew 25....yes....yes....and verses around it. I am glad you want to focus on the simplicity of the scriptures, so many times I run into people...

Thank you for the explaination Steve, like I said, I won't make a big issue of it either way, I was just interested in your viewpoint on that, as I have never heard it put that way before. I agree that the bible is silent on the subject, so I try not to add or take away from what it says. I will...

Ok, sorry for my improper manners, I am rather uncouth. I did see it as sticking with the point, (btw that thread has nothing to do with what I was asking about creation and the animals dying). It is a very integral part of "Creation vs Evolution vs gap theory" if a case can actually be made...

Oh, please forgive me. Thank you so much and sorry to offend.

Ok...correct, I agree with you. BTW...I don't take my viewpoints from "websites". I do not have very much intelligence, but the more you talk with me, the more you will understand that I do not need to be lead by the nose. Now....to your point that "animals were always meant to die". I...

Ummm....wait....where did man come from in the gap theory of evolution....if it still wasnt from animals? Or the original "micro-organism"? Does the gap theory suggest that man was still created but everything else came from some sort of evolution? What you suggest is very interesting, but an...