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It’s a hard thing to grasp. Jesus tells them to take up their cross but why. We’ve been told it was once for all?

I see it now! John 13:36 KJV Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards. It’s the weirdest feeling that comes upon you in an instant.

I’m gonna need a while to process all of this.

Sorry in advance for the short answer, but the truth of it all is that, God doesn’t require blood or sacrifice. It’s much more painful that than that. He requires that we love unconditional.

Galatians 4:28-29 KJV Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. [29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Paul defines for us what a MAN in the first century church was. Ephesians 4:13-15 KJV Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: [14] That we henceforth be no more children...

Do you mean like Judaism was how they identified themselves with god? Maybe what Jesus was referencing as their mother and father was simply their cultural narratives or their national way of viewing god? This would somewhat make since, and Jesus being their blood-born rightful anointed of God...

Galatians 4:26 KJV But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Thank you! Colossians 2:13-14 KJV And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; [14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the...

Like this? Ephesians 2:14 KJV For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

The Adam and Eve stuff that didn’t happen, is what you are reading in the New Testament. You see this isn’t an account of the creation of the cosmos it was a vision given from God to a man that penned his interpretation of the vision he was given.

Welcome to the forum! I’ve read through many of the post here bypassing a lot of the fluff. My question for you is what do you admire about jesus?

It’s only as if recent that I’ve realized what the woman is in Ephesians, that is telling to be silent. I guess it has to be God that has revealed this very important understanding. I’m beginning to see that I should just be quiet for a while.

I’m still processing all of the scripture that’s related to what your stating.

What do you see in this passage? Galatians 1:15 KJV But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, Galatians 1:16 KJV To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Wow, this is beginning to connect many dots. I’m seeing Jesus’ flesh- the veil as their way too God. It’s incredible how the Veil is often reduced to a literal curtain hanging in a stone temple.

I’m really surprised at how long you’ve all read the testimony of what your all waiting and watching for, and haven’t concluded you’ve already witnessed it?

The test is always the same, in the New Testament that is. The test is love. Had to pass the love test. This is why I always question myself, if I in fact have this Spirit.

Galatians 4:19 KJV My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

May God grant you the wisdom to reveal this truth!