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Well stated, Robert. When you make money as big a deal as it is in the incorporated/institutional churches it does introduce all kinds of problems and I don't think anyone will disagree with that and the manifestation of these problems is very evident, even in smaller...

I can't fellowship with legalistic, unloving, performance oriented people that are always counting nickels, noses and numbers. And I don't believe the Lord calls us to. In fact, He said something about "shaking the dust off your feet" and moving on. If you find yourself in that situation, be an...

Hi Haz, We certainly have some disagreements about the Christian's daily walk and what producing fruit and growth mean in the Christian life but that is no reason that we cannot maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. I apologize for implying and even saying that your theology is...

Haz, While on earth we are admonished to overcome and the Lord will be changing us in our soul (mind, will and emotions). Please see this other post: What I am talking about has nothing to do with salvation and yes one will miss out, but to be absent from the body is to be with the Lord...

Though we have have been regenerated and joined to the Lord as one spirit, we still live in the flesh and the flesh does not know the things of the spirit and the flesh cannot please God. Does not mean that the body of flesh is intrinsically bad or evil, it just means that the flesh wants the...

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I think that is true, justaname. The Holy Spirit tells us that our wives want love by telling us men, to love them. And the love they want is a pure love such as Christ loving the church. Not a "divided heart", love. "Love your wives as Christ loves the Church". It is not a love that takes...

Haz, I know truth is not determined by popularity contest, but then again after 2,000 years there should be many "witnesses" even though they don't number in the millions. God has a remnant in every generation and it would be helpful if you could point me to some writings that have been put...

Excellent post, Sojourner! Christ is our Sabbath-Rest, He is our Rest. We have ceased from our own works of righteousness and walk with Christ in relationship (not performance or compulsion), and in His righteousness and in His rest, 7 days a week. He is our Sabbath, everyday of the week, even...

My bad, entirely Stan and my sincerest apologies. I think KJV is the proper English, but since it has been omitted from consideration, I will decline to post anymore in this thread. All the best. Axehead

Great question, Aspen! It is the unity of the Spirit that is important, not the unity of thought? And any unity that does not place Jesus Christ in the preeminent position in the Body with His people gathering around and unto him rather than gathering around and unto man, will only result in...

A covenant between two parties includes responsibilities on the part of each party (individual). In our relationship with Christ, we know that He will never break covenant... but what about man?

Haz, I don't go for either extreme. I don't believe the largest religious institution in the world has the truth on this and I don't believe one church in America and a handful of brothers in Brisbane Australia necessarily have the truth on this. Every time the word obedience or obey is...

Haz, Whatever myself or anyone else has said you call it something different. I say that your theology is dangerous, and you call it belittling. I show scripture that confirms scripture and you take the stance that only your understanding of the scripture is correct. Many besides myself, have...

If our only goal would be to see more of Jesus in ourselves and others, then all these other things would not matter anymore. We are not to look at the Church (each other) and judge them for not doing enough, or not being more loving or welcoming or whatever. The Church is people not a club but...

It is very simple. There is one Body of Christ, not many. 2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. This is definitely speaking of individual men. You don't speak about the singular Body of Christ by...

I like this comment by "Don't Gruber Me". "This diatribe is just as man-centered as what he is attacking. Reading the whole article, I see no mention of the real problem. The real problem is that by and large, many churches are man-centered instead of a Christ-centered and because of that, they...

The Body of Christ corporate is made up of individual members. The Body of Christ is a new creation (one new man), only if individual members are. Cannot be any other way.

What Haz has done is redefine in a very narrow way, what sin is and then build a theology around it. He says simply, that sin is unbelief and that all physical "sins" are "without the body" and therefore do not have any negative effect upon one, eternally speaking. 1Co_6:18 Flee fornication...

The reason that men find it easier to follow other men is because they can follow men halfheartedly and pretend it's wholehearted, but you can't pretend to follow God halfheartedly. This is why we have earthly institutions which call themselves the "church" but they will never replace heavenly...