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  1. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: Being an Apostle does not mean Paul can write his Epistles without OT prophecy to back up what he is teaching. Paul gave evidence from the OT Scriptures for everything he was teaching the Church, and more so for the Jewish population. Paul would never contradict God. The fact is...
  2. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    There is a difference between renouncing the detestable things (repentance), and being able to walk in God's statutes and keep His ordinances. We have to genuinely believe first, a commitment to obey Lord Jesus, before we receive life from the indwelling Spirit. John 7:37-38 (WEB) 38 He who...
  3. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I will show you what the Apostles actually taught; though, I am not sure I know who the other two Apostles are that you speak of. The Christians are admonished to remain in the faith to be saved: 1 Peter 1:9 (ENIV) 9 for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your...
  4. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Question: Where in "1 Peter 1:3-7" does it teach that God gives us faith or endurance? You have stated, being born again is when the Spirit is poured out into your heart so we can believe and remain faithful. I quote you: [Bolding and underlining are mine in the first quote] CadyandZoe said...
  5. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Being an Apostle does not mean Paul can write his Epistles without OT prophecy to back up what he is teaching. Paul gave evidence from the OT Scriptures for everything he was teaching the Church, and more so for the Jewish population. You rarely gave verses for anything. Most of the time, all...
  6. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: God hardens in punishment those who continually refuse His grace. You just said earlier, you agreed that God hardens in judgment, in the dialogue as follows: ------------ setst777 said: Israel is God's Elect people, the apple of His eye; yet, they refused to listen to his...
  7. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: That will happen in the Millennial reign of Christ on earth. At a time in the future, Israel will turn from their sins, and then God will heal them. You have it backwards. I gave you the Scripture from Ezekiel, and you reject what God said. Ezekiel 11:18-21 (WEB) 18 “‘They will...
  8. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    If what you say is true, then you would have at least listed the vers(s); instead, you fabricate your own words as if they were God's Word right to His face. And everyone on this board can see exactly what you are doing, since these messages last forever, they are permanent. Even if you delete...
  9. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: Paul does not mention by name any of the OT books he quoted or referenced in Romans 9, but his Jewish audience would recognize the OT references Paul was using as his evidence, just as Christians do today. There is nothing contrary about it, as that was Paul's customary way of...
  10. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Paul does not mention by name any of the OT books he quoted or referenced in Romans 9, but his Jewish audience would recognize the OT references Paul was using as his evidence, just as Christians do today. That is your belief, but you have to prove it by Scripture. Sure, in general all humans...
  11. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Paul is arguing his case from the OT Scriptures throughout "Romans 9." It is through the preaching about Christ that we come to the knowledge about the salvation he offers us, but God will only saves those who believe in the Gospel being preached. 1 Corinthians 1:21 (EWEB) 21 For seeing that...
  12. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I advise you to always read the context to find what God wants us to know, rather then only isolating parts of what he said and then filling in the details with our own opinions. The Sardis church was not always dead. Lord Jesus admonished them to repent from their fall. Revelation 3:1-6 (WEB)...
  13. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    We all agree. However, the "HOW" and "WHY" God does what He does is fully explained by Paul in the rest of his Letter to the Roman, including "Romans 9:21-33." All you have to do is read it for yourself. In the OT, God also explains why He does what He does. All you have to do is read it...
  14. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    All through "Romans 9," Paul is drawing upon, and quoting from, the OT in his letter to the Romans. For instance: Romans 9:9 I tell the truth in Christ. I am not lying, my conscience testifying with me in the Holy Spirit 2 that I have great sorrow and unceasing pain in my heart. 3 For I could...
  15. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I agree that falling away is not necessarily a permanent event, but it can be. Revelation 3:1-5 (WEB) “I know your works, that you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. 2 Wake up and keep the things that remain, which you were about to throw away, for I have found no works of...
  16. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    When Paul alluded to the OT metaphor that God used, he is expecting his audience to review the details of that metaphor - the "why" and "how" from God, of which Paul referred to. But you want to ignore what God explained, and desire to give your own meaning to the "why" and "how." Paul never...
  17. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    God himself gave the meaning to the metaphor. The Apostle Paul just stated the metaphor without explaining the reasons within that section of his Epistle. But if you read the entire Epistle, you will see that God saves those who believe and condemns those who do not believe. Romans 2:4 Or do...
  18. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    You must be a Traditionalist/Provisionist. However, the Apostle Paul plainly taught that the Spirit-Indwelt believer can fall away, for the indwelling Spirit will only give Eternal Life to the Spirit-indwelt believer who sows to the Spirit without giving up. Galatians 6:7-9 (Writing to the...
  19. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: You are replying to a strawman, not me. I believe God was intimately involved with Joseph's rescue, and aligned the events to occur to bring about His purpose. What do you mean by absolute freedom, because I never used that term? Every person is free to choose, being created in...