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  1. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    God isn’t a human person.
  2. Mattathias

    The Trinity definition

    Who do you say “he” is? (Jesus thinks that’s an important question.) Or, if you prefer Jesus himself to ask the question, “Who do you say I am?”
  3. Mattathias

    The Trinity definition

    That may prove to be the case but I choose to think of it as a knee jerk reaction to something he’s never heard before.
  4. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    Jesus is a human person. I’ve quoted Catholic and Protestant scholarship which says that he isn’t a human person.
  5. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    No one has expressed the argument in this thread that Jesus is not human. Certainly none of the trinitarians I’ve quoted have said or believed that Jesus is not human. None of the trinitarians I’ll be quoting say that Jesus is not human. They all say that Jesus is not a human person. The...
  6. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    The following is from a Protestant (Southern Baptist) source. “The orthodox doctrine of the incarnation promulgated at the Council of Chalcedon is emphatic that in the incarnate Christ there is one and only one, undivided person who has two distinct natures, one human and one divine. That one...
  7. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    See the trinitarian sources I’ve quoted. I’ll be quoting additional trinitarian sources, Catholic and Protestant, which clearly state that trinitarianism teaches us that Jesus is not a human person.
  8. Mattathias

    The Trinity definition

    Thank you. Isn’t it necessary for a person to hear what a doctrine actually teaches before he/she can make an intelligent decision about whether the doctrine being entertained is or isn’t heresy? I would like to see “Jesus is not a human person” thundered with regularity from every...
  9. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    The Church taught it to my wife in the Catholic High School she attended. You didn’t answer my question: Who exactly do you think Catholic Answers (whom you believe is misrepresenting what the Church teaches) seeking conciliation with on this point? Also, are you aware of the Church taking any...
  10. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    From an article titled “Is Jesus a Human Person?”, published in the National Catholic Register, “... while the traditional formula is that Jesus is a divine person with both divine and human natures, we do not call Jesus a ‘human person.’ ... No magisterial source I consulted ever referred to...
  11. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    “Some months ago, after writing ‘Did the Incarnation Cause God to Change?’ I received an excellent follow-up question. Wrestling with my article, one of our readers could not get past how we can say that Christ was truly and fully man and yet not ‘a human person.’ ...” Is Jesus a Human Person?
  12. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    Thanks. I’ll quote the source, with the understanding that you - and possibly other Catholics - don’t believe it to be a reliable source on Catholic teaching. I’m curious though. Who exactly do you think this source, which says Jesus is not a human person, is seeking conciliation with on this...
  13. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    I’ll quote additional Catholic sources (as well as Protestant sources) which say the same as the Catholic catechist I quoted. Would you be willing to write this to her, the Institute and the Bishop?
  14. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    I’ll start with a Catholic source. “In my experience as a catechist, I have found there is a desire to know Christ more but also that there are many misunderstandings about what has been revealed. As an example, some people are shocked to learn Jesus Christ is not a human person.” The...
  15. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    Would you like for me to quote some of those sources for you? Christophany and I are in agreement on this point. Are you saying now that you are in agreement with us?
  16. Mattathias

    The Trinity definition

    Thanks. I posted a link to the catechism and someone (not sure if the person is Catholic or Protestant) accused me of practicing witchcraft for doing it, alleging that I changed the meaning! It should, and maybe it will, but it’s been my personal experience on other public forums that it...
  17. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    I don’t understand your comment. I’m not saying it says the opposite of what it says. P.S. Are you Catholic?
  18. Mattathias

    The Trinity definition

    It helps me, but I don’t think it will help the Catholic member I mentioned. (Meanwhile, a second Catholic member has joined that conversation and said, in part: “Your claim is false - and the people who told you it was true either lied to you - or are woefully ignorant.”) I’m not trying to...
  19. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    In the meantime, please see 468. Catechism of the Catholic Church - "He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of the Virgin Mary"
  20. Mattathias

    Mother of Jesus?

    Please note that I did not say Catholicism teaches “Jesus is not a human being”. I’ll be happy to show you Catholic sources which say trinitarianism teaches “Jesus is not a human person”, if you would like for me to do that.