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Phoneman, don't try to hide you failure to answer my questions behind a strawman. My point has never been that we should "try" to keep the 10 commandments! If anything, that is exactly what MOST sabbatarianists are trying to claim. Are you an exception? So try to get this straight for once -...

Brakelite, it sounds to me as though you are trying to suggest that I "agree" that there is some kind of division in the law between "ceremonial" or "civil" laws and "moral" laws. I have never, in this forum, or anywhere else, agreed with anything of the sort. What I agree with is what scripture...

Please stop breaking the 9th commandment! And?? What does that have to do with me? I have ALREADY pointed out that we should keep God's commandments. Why, rather than address what I have actually said are you still pretending that I am saying something else? And why are you unable to answer...

That's not what that verse says. In fact it actually disproves SDA theology entirely by showing us that whatever is written on our hearts is NOT (you know, the word used TWICE in this verse) what was written on either stone or ink (even though what is written is consistent with both) but on...

Firstly, Christ was there when the commandment to circumcise was given. So that alone shatters your feeble argument, as well as the fact that "adultery" and "killing" commonly break BOTH the New and Old covenants. So why pretend that you are proving some kind of point when you are not? And if...

And if you can provide any verse in scripture that shows that the 10 commandments, rather than morality that breaks the Law of Christ, apply to Christians then please do so. I can provide scriptures that show that the 10 commandments were a part of the , and scriptures that show that THAT...

And just as I have pointed out time and time again, neither James nor John makes any mention of the "Ten Commandments". In fact, just as I have pointed out time and time again, John explicitly lays out what Gods commandments for us actually are. So why insert into scripture words that are not...

Scriptures? Answers to my question? Anything? I guess not...

Um... and??? Did I say anything at all about "immortal souls"??? Oh I see.... I guess what you are desparately trying to say here is that I am advocating a theology that says that is is quite alright to sin and that death would not be a consequence of it. The usual SDA cop-out in other words...

And just as I pointed out, that is NOT what Paul says, but rather what YOU say. If that really was what Paul was saying then I don't doubt that he would have said it in the say way that anyone else would have said it. But your theology requires redefining what "Paul says" so that it matches...

What technique? I responed to your points! How is that a "technique"??? Well please state exactly what you think I "twisted". Again, all I did was respond to your points. So with the "new" list of point you provided here, which you think is evidence for you claim that I am twisting your...

Thanks Zeke! Unfortunately I see the same behavior over and over again. Initially they try to pretend that their doctrine is "scriptural" because the preachers and teachers they bend their ears to provide them with long lists of comma-delimited bible verses that they think defends their stance...

Just as I have pointed out, scriptures such as the above say nothing about being under the Mosaic law. Rather, they are consistent with the Law of Christ. If the speeding limit in one country is similar to, or even equivalent to, the speeding limit in another country then that does NOT mean...

What???? Where did I claim anything like that? Please don't invent things and then claim they are evidence that what I say is unscriptural. If you have a point, please don't twist things around as you please. Use the quote-boxes - that's what they are there for!! And if you gave a "scriptural"...

Phoneman777, I am appealing to you to be HONEST here! If I hadn't presented any contradictions here, then you would easily have gone through my list of questions one by one and deal with them in the same way that I have dealt with SDA arguments - using scripture. You choose, once again, NOT to...

No they are not! Just as Zeke points out, there is nothing in those chapters that supports your claim. Paul taught on the Jewish sabbath for absolutely obvious reasons. Phoneman777 Do you have any response to my previous post? Does anyone? Why, when scripture explicitly teaches us that the...

Totally incorrect! Don't make assertions that you cannot support. What "false gospel of the Gentiles" are you referring to? And what "theories" have I presented here that lack scriptural support? If anything I have written here deviates from scripture then please point it out, with scripture...

Well unless any of you guys can demonstrate, with scripture, that the 10 commandments were given to "us", then the old "9 out of 10" argument is totally worthless, don't you think? Scripture teaches us that those who are saved and who follow the spirit are no longer under the law. Why are you...

You don't? They were clearly listed in the post that I was responding to? Why on earth are you "not sure"? Are you listening? So you label yourself as a "Sabbath keeper"? Please point out where scripture defines exactly what a "Sabbath keeper" is, what such a person does and doesn't do, and...

Please don't puff yourself up and try to get all haughty with me. You won't get very far, I assure you. If you have something to say to me then don't forget that you have an obligation to back it up with scripture. What you do NOT have an obligation to do is to construct faulty arguments and...