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I agree with you Weber... to a certain degree. However, on the other hand there are a couple of elephants in the room that no one seems to address in discussions like these. For one thing, I don't think you will find many Christians who are caught up in sexual immorality and so on... who claim...

So you "keep the law" do you??? That clashes quite badly with 1 John 1:8. And if you think you are not under condemnation because you think you keep the law, then why does the same passage of scripture that teaches us that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, show that it...

Brakelite, I assure you that I have read those verses very carefully. But what you are doing here is confusing morality with law. And as I have repeatedly pointed out, morality is not the fruit of being under a written code of law. If it was then the Jews, who were under that law, would not have...

You seem to by trying to make Gal 5:4 say that Christ has no effect on those who are obedient to God. That is not what the verse says. The law was given to the Jews because of disobedience, not in order to produce it. They too were given the gospel, but they rebelled against it. In immediate...

Really? How is anyone supposed to reply to that? Why don't you try me, instead of making up excuses? If you are not prepared to defend your theology then what on earth are you doing here? This is the typical cop-out that all SDAs seem to fall back on whenever they cannot use scripture to prove...

Why don't you let me say what I think instead of trying to distort it? If I thought that Paul was condemning the 10 commandments then you can be completely sure that that is exactlyl what I would have said. Paul condemned neither the 10 commandments, nor the Mosaic law. And neither do I, so get...

Why do SDA's insist that the Law of Moses are not God's commandments? Scripture teaches us that the "Law of Moses" was given by God! So while you are still stalling and not addressing all the points I made, (and specifically the challenge I gave to all SDAs in this thread which NO SDA ever...

Did I claim that they did? The only place in the NT where the decalogue is referred to is in 2 Cor 3, where Paul describes their ministry as something that brings death and condemnation and was fading away. Why are SDAs trying to reintroduce them into Christianity? Again, did I make such a...

Do you have any evidence that placing oneself under the 10 commandments prevents anyone from breaking them? Do you have any evidence that "remembering" a commandment is equivalent to keeping it? Can you meet the challenge I gave to SDAs earlier on in this thread? If not, then please explain...

When you address the points I made concerning this then let me know.

Well, I am sure you have convinced yourself that what YOU have read is "convincing". But you are all over the place - trying on the one hand to claim that it takes years of study to understand, while on the other claiming that all it requires is a number of "simple steps". I guess it depends on...

No it is not. Someone being exempt from a law does not "do away with" the law itself as long as it still applies to someone else. Read Romans 7:1-6 and take the time to think about the example that Paul gives to us in order to illustrate how it works. Ask yourself, were the laws concerning...

No, you have not. What "material" are you talking about? Assuming the "evolutionary history" of mammals does not "show" how cats and dogs have a common ancestor. We are talking about science here RJ, not conjecture. What scientific facts "show" us that dogs and cats have a common ancestor? If...

How does the Bible make that distinction?

So did Jesus fulfill the law or not? In Romans 7:1-6 the apostle Paul gives a perfect example of how the death of Christ not only fulfills the law for us, but does so without abolishing it. So what is your point? The conclusion that Paul draws from this is that we have been "released from the...

I am going to keep asking you this heretoeternity. How do you harmonize your views with the rest of scripture? And if you rely on Matthew 5 to support you then obviously every single stroke of the pen in the OT still applies, which disproves the above. The ONLY theology and faith that...

No you haven't! That is an incredibly pathetic argument. Statistics show that cats are cats and dogs are dogs. They also show that only cats produce cats and that dogs only produce dogs. So statistics can obviously be used as an example of methodological naturalism to prove you wrong. Please...

So "likelihood-based methods" prove that cats and dogs have a common ancestor and that evolution is not a philosiphical idea???????? Explain! Don't just provide links. I could just as easily provide a link to a bunch of creationist sites and claim that it proves my point unless you disprove it...

um... yes :wacko: Unless of course you can show... using the principles of "methodological naturalism" ... that cats and dogs have a common ancestor, without appealing to the philosophical idea that all forms of life originated from one single ancestor. Care to do that for us RJ? Oh, and by...

Kind of rules out evolution though, doesn't it? :lol: