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  1. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    Good word and very true. JW's and Mormons both don't realize that Jesus Himself said "I will build my church." And I don't think He took a vacation or the Father. JOH 5:17 But Jesus answered them, "My Father is working still, and I am working." The problem just might be "not having 'eyes...
  2. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    EXO 34:7 keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation." And YOUR CORRECT INTERPRETATION...
  3. Hillsage

    My agnostic friend says: "I don't need it." - How would you respond?

    So do you believe 2Peter 3:9 which you quote? What I'm 'hearing' in reading that verse is this; it's GOD'S WILL vs YOUR WILL. And scripture isn't betting on 'your will' beating the will of GOD. And what do we need an "EVERLASTING GOSPEL" for in Revelation 14:6? I thought it only lasts until...
  4. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    My opinion; EXO 34:7 keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation." Iniquity pertains to...
  5. Hillsage

    My agnostic friend says: "I don't need it." - How would you respond?

    Totally agreed....until the last line. :hmhehm IMO They are NOT CHILDREN of the Most High God. JOH 1:12 But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become CHILDREN /teknon of God; "children" = 5043 teknon: a child (as produced) They are NOT BABES of The Most...
  6. Hillsage

    My agnostic friend says: "I don't need it." - How would you respond?

    Your description talks about FOREKNOWLEDGE IMO. I'm not talking about a "preplanned" 'plan' , that's up to you, to 'work' for salvation. I'm talking about PREDESTINATION and not FOREKNOWLEDGE. The salvation of your spirit is 100% PREDESTINED IMO. Scripture says "appointed" or "ordained" in...
  7. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    I guess I just like 'functioning of the brain' for a catch all. Personally I don't think that the brain/soul can live 'independantly' outside the body. I do 'think' that the spirit can. In the occultic practice astral projection, something is claimed biblically. That being the silver cord...
  8. Hillsage

    My agnostic friend says: "I don't need it." - How would you respond?

    Do you believe in predestination? Two words suffice.....DOUBTING Thomas. Did he or the twelve 'choose Jesus' or did Jesus FIRST choose them? Did Thomas have Faith to believe in the risen Lord Jesus, or did he have to SEE to believe? Yes, he did! ROM 14:11 for it is written, "As I live...
  9. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    I've seen Steven do that for a long time. But just never asked. Good question. IMO. :Happy:
  10. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    Not 'just' the consciousness. Your brain's MIND makes the body function....whether conscious, SUB-conscious or UN-conscious. Your brain's WILL determines 'I will, I won't, I can, I can't. Your brain's EMOTIONS will be a product of whatever you are feeding your SOUL with. If it's LUST OF THE...
  11. Hillsage

    My agnostic friend says: "I don't need it." - How would you respond?

    In the beginning there was only 'the church'. It was 'the church', for all of the apostle's lives. The first use of the term "Catholic Church" (literally meaning "universal church") was by the church father Saint Ignatius of Antioch in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans (circa 110 AD). AFTER all...
  12. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    I define the spirit as the source for the 'animating' 'zoe' life of the triune human being. I define the soul as the source for the 'motivational' 'zao' life of the triune human being. The 'animating' life, of the body, to be moving and functionally alive flesh, comes from the spirit. The...
  13. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    I disagree. What you call "life force", is the 'power' which 'a spirit' emits or gives out of itself. It's what Jesus felt flow out of Him to heal the woman with the issue of blood. 1411 dunamis: force (lit. or fig.); spec. miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself) MAR 5:30...
  14. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    The truth is, you now know me better than you did. And now, I hope you know a little better, the difference between COCKINESS and CONFIDENCE. :hmhehm I never asked for "bible Scripture to support 'flesh and spirit' were two different objects." I asked you to prove with BIBLE that SPIRIT...
  15. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    You obviously don't know me, or you would know that I know the bible. And your condescending comment doesn't support you, it reveals you IMO, but time will certainly tell. :Broadly: As to YOUR OPINION above, where is scripture to support your OPINION? And if you say sprit can't change to...
  16. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    A Good answer. IMO. In the same way, you appear to not know 'In the beginning was the WORD/SPIRIT which became FLESH /BODY. If I said In the beginning was and ORANGE and the ORANGE became a CARROT. Does it make sense to you ,for me to say; Therefore a CARROT IS AN ORANGE? What is correct...
  17. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    Your assessment is just as true for 'me concerning you' as it for 'you concerning me'. And yet you are here interacting with all 'those' that you do. 'Those' who are just as unyielding, for the same reason IMO, that you say I have. But you keep debating them. That just seems inconsistent...
  18. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    Got to admit Aunty, I was truly expecting you to respond to this last post. Maybe not in the same length as I did, but nothing at all? But it has been almost a month, so just wanted to check in for some kind of reasoning as to your going quiet.
  19. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Right, and that's what I believed also. I went over as the red blooded, true blue, kill the commies American kid. 6 months over there and I got enough 'OJT' training to change my mind. How ironic, my dad was also in the ''Battle of the bulge." And he didn't have it so good. In a freezing...
  20. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Good, good analogy SteVen. That's why more Viet Nam veterans died of suicide after coming back to the USA than ever died in the whole Viet Nam war. I saw, participated and knew about so many illegal things that it made me hate the government of the United States.....though I DID, and STILL do...