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  1. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    I suppose it is much more than just "two types of Christians". But me saying "milk toast vs Perfect" was really just as true as saying 'the two extremes of Christianity plus everyone who was in between'. As for your "two types of salvation" comment; I personally believe that here is actually 3...
  2. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Thank you for the defending word brother. :Thumbsup: If only he knew about a guy who argued with me for at least a year or more, on another Christian Forum concerning UR. But that brother argued WITH GOOD QUESTIONS and an attitude to follow the truth....no matter where it led......instead of...
  3. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    Sorry, missed being notified. Jesus isn't coming back for all the milk toast, pew warming "Christians". He is coming back for the "overcomers" of every church represented in the Revelation. And he is coming back for His "bride that is without spot or wrinkle". or PERFECT. Those will be seated...
  4. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    YOUR OPINION. I can't go to the throne and say YOU said. ONE verse is all I'm asking for that says what you just 'said'. I never said you did. I asked WHAT CHURCH do you go to. And we'll find one of your hotshots confirm that they believe MOST are headed to ETERNAL HELL. I'll make it...
  5. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I'm sorry what you just said doesn't even make sense. :My2c: I believe that's what we're telling you. Suffering for ETERNITY in HELL is a HELL of a lot worse than spending your time "apart from Him". If you can't 'see that'. maybe you just don't have "eyes to see" OR "ears to hear" what we...
  6. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    The Word became a human flesh body and that body is the only thing that died. What church do you go to that teaches most of God's created human population isn't going to end up in ETERNAL HELL???? Not a scripture in the whole book that says that. And on the cross Jesus SENT His spirit to the...
  7. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    It is truly with sadness for your soul that I say this, I knew you weren't kidding. I know you truly believe that way. For the preaching of the cross is ....foolishness;...unto us which are saved it is the power of God. You can keep believing the cross is foolishness and I'll keep believing it...
  8. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    MAT 22:14 For many are called/kletos, but few are chosen/eklektos. 2822 kletos: invited ie appointed, or (spec) a saint 1588 eklektos: select; by impl. favorite IOW For many are saints, but few are favorites 2TI 2:20 In a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but...
  9. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Are you kidding? That's HOW everyone qualified. It was because of what Jesus did, not what you did. When you received Jesus by faith it was His death on that cross which forgave your sins along with everyone else's. Jesus paid the price for all. You accepting Him......WHEN you first...
  10. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    Question, what standard is there besides??? ; Phil 3 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God IN CHRISTJesus. Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the...
  11. Hillsage

    You either have the spirit or you don't

    Everlasting fire simply means you can't put it out until it burns up what needs to be destroyed. JUD 1:7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. Would...
  12. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    If anyone has a god of their own making it would have been the church of ROME. Killing 3,000 to 3,500 Christians who didn't agree theologically with them. They just couldn't catch Luther, or they would have murdered him too. All that bloodshed over DOCTRINE hmmm. And it was also responsible...
  13. Hillsage

    You either have the spirit or you don't

    Did he get his DOCTORATE degree FROM JESUS? NOT! That should be your first clue to not trust someone today. Getting a degree from some religious spiritual cemetary just wasn't the way Jesus did it. But those who were "approved of men" had the same standard to bow down to as you've just...
  14. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    post 86 post 88 Are you sure? I don't think 'most Christians' even know what you just said. When you say "preincarnate Jesus became flesh", I do/don't agree, depending on just what that vocabulary means to you. If you would have said "preincarnate LOGOS" I would agree. But preincarnate...
  15. Hillsage

    You either have the spirit or you don't

    And if it "AIN'T" His will, for you to believe, then you don't have 'the will to believe'; EPH 2:8* For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God -- JOH 1:13* Which were born [again or from above], not of blood, nor of the will of...
  16. Hillsage

    You either have the spirit or you don't

    So glad to hear you believe in prayer, as do I. But my prayer is BIBLICAL. I curious as to how it lines up with your praying? Because this prayer indicates that ALL MEN (mankind) will "get in" "in due time". 1TI 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers...
  17. Hillsage

    Who ARE "the prophets" in Ephesians 2:20?

    I believe they are different spirits. And I believe that Eph 4 is talking about the "one body" of Christ. A body which scripture says is 'many members'. ROM 12:4 For as in one body we have many members, and all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, though many, are one body in...
  18. Hillsage

    Who ARE "the prophets" in Ephesians 2:20?

    What did they just say? "becomes a question for the SPIRITUAL JUDGMENT of THE READER." IOW You are going to have to use YOUR SPIRITUAL JUDGMENT!!!! Because these FundaMENTAL Greek Scholar translators have admitted they don't even know the correct answer for when "spirit" "Spirit" "holy...
  19. Hillsage

    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    I disagree. But I think the oldest one still works as good as when the church of Rome invented it. And we sorta hold hands concerning that false doctrine of ETERNAL HELL. I'm sorry, but I was asked by a church God called us back to (after calling us out 8 years before) to mentor a former...
  20. Hillsage

    Who ARE "the prophets" in Ephesians 2:20?

    I've quoted this reference before. Just read the comments from the SCHOLARS who wrote this GREEK INTERLINEAR ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT. Pay special attention to the blue text for the answer to your question. ZONDERVAN PUBLISHING CO. 1972 Based on STEVENS GREEK TEXT Introduction page iii 5...